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The goals of immigration control are many, including:
1) Keep out criminals and health risks;
2) Make sure we don't let people in who will simply use public assistance;
3) Ensure that people ALREADY HERE can find employment;
4) Orderly population growth control and environmental/resource protection.
I'm sure half the world would move to our borders if they could. Tell us how importing millions of poor people HELPS the United States?
The statute of liberty is a symbol of freedom. The poem on the bottom was written in a time when there was literally zero public assistance. People were sent on their way and told, "good luck!" We don't live in those times anymore, and I at least do not want to go back just so people can "feel good" about letting anyone in who wants to come.
And public health. We don't want some third world disease. TB is a disqualifying factor as is many other communicable disease.
And public health. We don't want some third world disease. TB is a disqualifying factor as is many other communicable disease.
My ex had to provide his vaccination records, receive some vaccines that are given here but not in the UK, and have a chest x-ray to prove he didn't have tuberculosis. He also had to carry his x-ray to the US with him to activate his green card.
(As an aside: My ex does not reside in the US. He never did. He activated his green card but still lives in his home country....before anyone accuses him of using me to get a visa, he didn't.)
My ex had to provide his vaccination records, receive some vaccines that are given here but not in the UK, and have a chest x-ray to prove he didn't have tuberculosis. He also had to carry his x-ray to the US with him to activate his green card.
(As an aside: My ex does not reside in the US. He never did. He activated his green card but still lives in his home country....before anyone accuses him of using me to get a visa, he didn't.)
That's the legal way--and for good reason. You are right.
There are lots of regulations and requirements and medical tests. Lots of fees to pay. Long waiting time, proof of identity. You don't just walk in.
You start the application process at the embassy. Illegal "immigration" is just sneaking in and bypassing the set requirements--requirements that are there for good reason.
Way back when, didn't everyone come from somewhere else except the American Indians/Native Indians. I was taught the Statue of Liberty was a welcoming symbol. If someone wants to come to this country didn't they only need to give their names.
Alaska was connected physically and geographically attached to Siberia, Russia, Europe, Asia, Eurasia etc. Native Americans migrated from Asia to what is now the regions of the Western Hemisphere. Native Americans migrated crossing the Bering Strait landbridge.
That's the legal way--and for good reason. You are right.
There are lots of regulations and requirements and medical tests. Lots of fees to pay. Long waiting time, proof of identity. You don't just walk in.
You start the application process at the embassy. Illegal "immigration" is just sneaking in and bypassing the set requirements--requirements that are there for good reason.
Alaska was connected physically and geographically attached to Siberia, Russia, Europe, Asia, Eurasia etc. Native Americans migrated from Asia to what is now the regions of the Western Hemisphere. Native Americans migrated crossing the Bering Strait landbridge.
You're right, and there was more involved in migrating here in the past besides just giving your name. The poem on the Statue of Liberty should never be interpreted that is ok to come here illegally. Our immigration policies have had to change over the years due to population growth and a lot of other factors.
It's illegal to sneak into this country and then stay and then demand rights like you were born here.
But the accepted premise is that if you came here illegally, worked and contributed to the economy, you should get a pass to ignore the law. That's like saying that if I broke into your house and washed the dishes, I now qualify to live there?
But the accepted premise is that if you came here illegally, worked and contributed to the economy, you should get a pass to ignore the law. That's like saying that if I broke into your house and washed the dishes, I now qualify to live there?
Yep. The difference though would be that if the homeowner does his own dishes at least you wouldn't be stealing a paying job from an American or not likely to be using a stolen ID to do so.
Immigration quotas have existed in the U.S. for almost 100-years ... nothing new here. Congress enacted the first widely restrictive immigration quota law in 1917. This was followed by the Johnson-Reed act of 1924, which limited immigration into the United States by nationality quotas.
In spite of the legal restrictions, there were an estimated 12-million immigrants living illegally in the U.S. as of 2008, up from 3.5 million in the 1990's. Six million Mexican-born immigrants make-up 52-percent of these numbers. Just a few perspectives to add economic reality to the illegal immigration problem:
- Social services for illegal aliens were estimated to cost American taxpayers $70 Billion per year (2004 est). - Most current estimates for costs of illegal alien services since 1996 is almost 400 trillion dollars.
- State and local governments spend some $4 billion a year to provide health care to illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children and $20 to $24 billion to educate children from illegal alien households.
- The drain by illegal aliens on American tax monies lowers the quality in education and services that belong to legal American citizens.
- Illegal aliens are siphoning the resources out of the U.S. to other economies. 10 billion dollars annually are sent from U.S. to Mexico. Almost 22 trillion dollars have been wired to Mexico since 1996
- Illegal immigrants do not assimilate into U.S. society and are causing a splintering of society along racial and cultural lines.
- Illegal immigration threatens America quality of life. It is linked to drug smuggling, human sex trade, murder, and other crimes, which threaten the safety of Americans and increase the burden on the US law enforcement system and resources.
- Illegal activity should be punished not rewarded. Illegal aliens show contempt for the values and laws that make America the land of opportunity and desirable to reside in. They abuse the generosity and compassion of the American people. They belittle all immigrants who reside in America legally.
As with so many modern issues, there is more to illegal immigration than the simple 'touchy-feely' notion that ever everyone should be allowed to become American citizens "on demand."
All of these reasons are idiotic. And most of them are created by the restrictions themselves.
- Social services for illegal aliens were estimated to cost American taxpayers $70 Billion per year (2004 est). - Most current estimates for costs of illegal alien services since 1996 is almost 400 trillion dollars.
Immigrants would pay for their own services if there were not laws that didn't allow them to pay income tax. However, they still do pay some taxes, as everything they purchase incurs a sales tax and they are also paying property tax where they live (paying rent is essentially paying for the owner's property taxes, as well as other costs of running the apartment). So it's not like they get a "free ride". If you want them to pay more, then don't make it illegal to work and they'd be paying income tax like everyone else.
- State and local governments spend some $4 billion a year to provide health care to illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children and $20 to $24 billion to educate children from illegal alien households.
Same as above, if you want them to pay income taxes, then don't make it illegal for them to work.
- The drain by illegal aliens on American tax monies lowers the quality in education and services that belong to legal American citizens.
This isn't a drain by "illegal aliens", it's a drain by poor people. The more poor people there are, the bigger strain on services. So if you really think this is an issue, you basically support deporting poor people who are American citizens too. Otherwise, you're just being racist by selecting one subset of the group to blame.
- Illegal aliens are siphoning the resources out of the U.S. to other economies. 10 billion dollars annually are sent from U.S. to Mexico. Almost 22 trillion dollars have been wired to Mexico since 1996
This is only because it is difficult for them to bring their whole families. If these restrictive laws were not in place, the entire family would have likely moved here and that money would not be leaving the country, it would stay here to sustain their cost of living (including paying all those taxes, just like everyone else.)
- Illegal immigrants do not assimilate into U.S. society and are causing a splintering of society along racial and cultural lines.
Immigrants tend to assimilate more when they feel welcomed...
- Illegal immigration threatens America quality of life. It is linked to drug smuggling, human sex trade, murder, and other crimes, which threaten the safety of Americans and increase the burden on the US law enforcement system and resources.
lol, what a wide, sweeping generalization that doesn't apply to the vast majority of people you are talking about.
- Illegal activity should be punished not rewarded. Illegal aliens show contempt for the values and laws that make America the land of opportunity and desirable to reside in. They abuse the generosity and compassion of the American people. They belittle all immigrants who reside in America legally.
It depends on the activity, and whether or not it should be illegal in the first place. If a law is unjust, then it SHOULD be broken. "Rules are rules" is what the Nazis believed in. I thought the Nuremberg trials showed that it was not acceptable to blindly follow/support laws like that?
Also, you sound real "generous" and "compassionate"...
That is a stupid argument. Mexico might "deport" it's most indigent citizens -- but the USA does not. We should however deport illegals.
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