What Would You Do? (green card, medical, born, illegal immigrants)
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Alright, we've "discussed" here a million times how bad illegal aliens are, how much of a danger they are for America and how they all should be deported en masse right now.
As a LEGAL immigrant and proud American myself, I am annoyed by those who come here illegally, disregarding the laws and avoiding the system. They not only settle here with no papers, but they don't learn English and refuse to integrate in the American way of life.
Who wants Main Street, America transformed into a cheap version of Tijuana? I don't! I came to America to be an American!
At the same time, I am well aware of how privileged I am to be here. I chose to live here. My wife is an American.
Those Mexicans who cross the border and enter our great country illegally have a different story to tell, and I've got to think about it.
We call them names, show the destruction they cause. But who are they? Why do they do it?
If they could, they would stay in Mexico. But they have to feed to their families and need better jobs to earn enough money. They can't get a green card, so they risk their lives crossing the desert and lose their money paying a coyote to smuggle them over the river.
It's easy for us in our cozy homes to cuss at those illegal Mexicans. But they are humans too. Humans with human needs. They are not crossing the border for fun, but for survival.
So I want to ask you all: What would you do?
Would you stay in Mexico and starve yourself and your family because you want to respect the laws and not cross illegally to where the jobs and the money are?
Or would you break the law and come to America in order to provide for you and your family?
Everyone wants to survive.
if I were Mexican,I would immigrate to U.S illegally if I can't do it legal.
if I were American,I would push illegal immigrants back.
Alright, we've "discussed" here a million times how bad illegal aliens are, how much of a danger they are for America and how they all should be deported en masse right now.
As a LEGAL immigrant and proud American myself, I am annoyed by those who come here illegally, disregarding the laws and avoiding the system. They not only settle here with no papers, but they don't learn English and refuse to integrate in the American way of life.
Who wants Main Street, America transformed into a cheap version of Tijuana? I don't! I came to America to be an American!
At the same time, I am well aware of how privileged I am to be here. I chose to live here. My wife is an American.
Those Mexicans who cross the border and enter our great country illegally have a different story to tell, and I've got to think about it.
We call them names, show the destruction they cause. But who are they? Why do they do it?
If they could, they would stay in Mexico. But they have to feed to their families and need better jobs to earn enough money. They can't get a green card, so they risk their lives crossing the desert and lose their money paying a coyote to smuggle them over the river.
It's easy for us in our cozy homes to cuss at those illegal Mexicans. But they are humans too. Humans with human needs. They are not crossing the border for fun, but for survival.
So I want to ask you all: What would you do?
Would you stay in Mexico and starve yourself and your family because you want to respect the laws and not cross illegally to where the jobs and the money are?
Or would you break the law and come to America in order to provide for you and your family?
Great thread. Can't give you reps until I "spread it around" some more.
Yes, I'd do the same thing they're doing. However, it was up to us to start pushing them back LONG ago before we ended up with this problem. We have an issue now that we have to deal with, in a socially responsible manner. We can't just "send them back" at this point.
Did you ever stop to think about all of the Mexicans who DON"T come to America, and do just fine? They have homes, cars, doctors, food, clothes, televisions, telephones, computers etc. Yep, they actually have electricity in Mexico.
The reason these illegals who are breaking into OUR country to work cheap, is because THEY CAN'T HACK IT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. That is why they are poison to our country. We get Mexico's needy people. Mexico keeps the people who are not a drain on their society, we get those who are.
These illegals are not coming to America to ask what they can do for our country. They are coming to America to ask what America can do for them. And I am tired of it. They are flat out trashing this country!
THESE PEOPLE BREAKING IN HERE, ARE NOT STARVING! I HAVE YET TO SEE A STARVING ILLEGAL JUMPING OVER THE BORDER.
They are the lower class. The quickest way to success for them, instead of getting an education in their own country, is to break into our country, and undercut our working class citizens, and drain OUR social services. Not to mention they put themselves ABOVE those who are immigrating legally, and shove them out of the line.
What would I do? I would stay in my own country and learn to make a descent living just like all of the other Mexicans who live and work in Mexico, who manage to feed and clothe their own families.
If the illegal aliens want to become a legal American citizen bad enough, I am sure they can figure out how.
OH, AND BY THE WAY......THE SOLUTION........
ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS ALREADY ON OUR BOOKS. STOP ALL SOCIAL SERVICE HANDOUTS. If we STOP rewarding them for their illegal behavior they will simply FLEE home to their own country where they can afford to live.
So you would:
...break Federal statutes of another country just because it wasn't your original country to provide for your family?
...break any and all laws to provide for your family?
...clobber another human being over the head to steal something for your family?
...rob a bank to provide for your family?
...murder another human being to provide for your family?
Have you already done these things "for your family?" Why not? You could be a far richer provider as a total career-criminal with no thought to any other human being outside your family!! Where is it supposed to stop, once you've started rationalizing U.S. laws away to suit your own selfish needs, even if you've stated it's for your family? If you're inventing "compassion" as an excuse, when does it start for anyone outside of your family? This is 2007, not the Dark Ages where you plunder anyone around you as your only recourse.
Illegals "rob Peter to pay Paul," with themselves being Paul, insofar as poor and working poor American citizens are taxed to provide for their services, services that we ourselves will never ever get. Illegals depress wages, and incubate violent gangs as part of the "laws don't apply to us" mentality. In real (read low income to middle class) non-rich areas, illegals' attitude towards us citizens here, both born and naturalized, spans resenting to despising. Face the truth, illegals have zero compassion for anyone else in the United States, only their own. I live with them and I know.
So you would:
...break Federal statutes of another country just because it wasn't your original country to provide for your family?
...break any and all laws to provide for your family?
...clobber another human being over the head to steal something for your family?
...rob a bank to provide for your family?
...murder another human being to provide for your family?
Have you already done these things "for your family?" Why not? You could be a far richer provider as a total career-criminal with no thought to any other human neing outside your family!! Where is it supposed to stop, once you've started rationalizing U.S. laws away to suit your own selfish needs, even if you've stated it's for your family? If you're inventing "compassion" as an excuse, when does it start for anyone outside of your family? This is 2007, not the Dark Ages where you plunder anyone around you. Face the truth, illegals have zero compassion for anyone in the United States, only themselves.
Alright, we've "discussed" here a million times how bad illegal aliens are, how much of a danger they are for America and how they all should be deported en masse right now.
As a LEGAL immigrant and proud American myself, I am annoyed by those who come here illegally, disregarding the laws and avoiding the system. They not only settle here with no papers, but they don't learn English and refuse to integrate in the American way of life.
Who wants Main Street, America transformed into a cheap version of Tijuana? I don't! I came to America to be an American!
At the same time, I am well aware of how privileged I am to be here. I chose to live here. My wife is an American.
Those Mexicans who cross the border and enter our great country illegally have a different story to tell, and I've got to think about it.
We call them names, show the destruction they cause. But who are they? Why do they do it?
If they could, they would stay in Mexico. But they have to feed to their families and need better jobs to earn enough money. They can't get a green card, so they risk their lives crossing the desert and lose their money paying a coyote to smuggle them over the river.
It's easy for us in our cozy homes to cuss at those illegal Mexicans. But they are humans too. Humans with human needs. They are not crossing the border for fun, but for survival.
So I want to ask you all: What would you do?
Would you stay in Mexico and starve yourself and your family because you want to respect the laws and not cross illegally to where the jobs and the money are?
Or would you break the law and come to America in order to provide for you and your family?
It's not true about starving Mexicans, they are not refugees and when they cross here they are not skeletal. Dafur is starving, not Mexicans...who come here to get a better life with more material possessions; better work, better pay, extra money to send home to their relatives, better schools, better medical, welfare, better prisons, citizenship for their children and themselves, the American dream. We are not buying the exuse of starvation anymore! What you don't speak of is how Americans are not able to have their own home and increased numbers are on the streets....in other words illegals continue to make Americans poorer. A modest rent in L.A. is now $1500 mo. and a 7% increase on this amount for all rentals was just announced. You would do well to tell Mexicans to stay in Mexico.
People, please be careful of questions/surveys, your answer might be sent to Washington along with millions to prove a point. Immigration is on the table this year we all know.
Great thread. Can't give you reps until I "spread it around" some more.
Yes, I'd do the same thing they're doing. However, it was up to us to start pushing them back LONG ago before we ended up with this problem. We have an issue now that we have to deal with, in a socially responsible manner. We can't just "send them back" at this point.
The time to do that passed 30 years ago.
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?Can't give you reps until I spread it around some more?
We certainly CAN send them back, and Kele mentioned that Eisenhower and Hoover managed to send millions on planes. Don't let anyone tell you that we cannot send illegals back.
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