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Old 03-25-2016, 01:37 AM
 
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In Phoenix or Tucson? There ain't a whole lot of "Black" people in those cities and, MOST of them are decent, NOT hood rats.
phoenix and tuscon aren't the only cities that have illegals. many cities all over the country have illegals what a convenient response to deny the ongoing genocide of black people
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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i said in black neighborhoods. obviously it doesn't in white neighborhoods.
I am referring to black neighborhoods. You obviously know nothing about the Los Angeles gang wars or Latin American gangs' attempt to commit genocide on the city's black population.
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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I am referring to black neighborhoods. You obviously know nothing about the Los Angeles gang wars or Latin American gangs' attempt to commit genocide on the city's black population.
well there is a small increase because of fighting but it decreases when the illegals dominate and make black people minorities in the cities illegals occupy
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Old 03-26-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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Why are you asking whether illegal immigration benefits you or the average population? The question is whether it benefits business. In which case, it has massive benefits to business. Illegal immigration from Mexico prevents Mexico from engaging in trade retaliation and also makes them more likely to agree to free trade and other trade treaties with the US. Furthermore, illegal immigration also lowers wages and costs for farm labor and other labor and helps certain industries make a higher profit. In addition, the population of the US grows much faster with rapid illegal immigration and this helps to grow the market size which helps businesses sell more products and increase profits and revenues. What the average American thinks about immigration is irrelevant to the establishment in both the Republican and Democratic parties.
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Old 03-26-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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Why are you asking whether illegal immigration benefits you or the average population? The question is whether it benefits business. In which case, it has massive benefits to business. Illegal immigration from Mexico prevents Mexico from engaging in trade retaliation and also makes them more likely to agree to free trade and other trade treaties with the US. Furthermore, illegal immigration also lowers wages and costs for farm labor and other labor and helps certain industries make a higher profit. In addition, the population of the US grows much faster with rapid illegal immigration and this helps to grow the market size which helps businesses sell more products and increase profits and revenues. What the average American thinks about immigration is irrelevant to the establishment in both the Republican and Democratic parties.
Uh; IF the US ever got serious about telling Mexico we DON'T want their illegal alien kind here, let them pull their trade retaliation bit. The US does NOT "need" Mexico. OTOH; Mexico DOES need the US because it's fixing to fall apart.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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Uh; IF the US ever got serious about telling Mexico we DON'T want their illegal alien kind here, let them pull their trade retaliation bit. The US does NOT "need" Mexico. OTOH; Mexico DOES need the US because it's fixing to fall apart.
The business conservative wing of the Republican party is not down with that at all. A trade war with Mexico would destroy NAFTA/TPP and ruin America's credibility with its allies. There is a reason why the GOP always caves into illegal immigration and why they do nothing about it.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:30 PM
 
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The business conservative wing of the Republican party is not down with that at all. A trade war with Mexico would destroy NAFTA/TPP and ruin America's credibility with its allies. There is a reason why the GOP always caves into illegal immigration and why they do nothing about it.
Don't forget the US did slam the door on immigration around 1920 and opened things up in 1965 which was a mistake and it's time to cut off most immigration in 2016.

Let the greedy business owners cry when the get put in their place.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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Why are you asking whether illegal immigration benefits you or the average population? The question is whether it benefits business. In which case, it has massive benefits to business. Illegal immigration from Mexico prevents Mexico from engaging in trade retaliation and also makes them more likely to agree to free trade and other trade treaties with the US. Furthermore, illegal immigration also lowers wages and costs for farm labor and other labor and helps certain industries make a higher profit. In addition, the population of the US grows much faster with rapid illegal immigration and this helps to grow the market size which helps businesses sell more products and increase profits and revenues. What the average American thinks about immigration is irrelevant to the establishment in both the Republican and Democratic parties.

Tell us something we don't know but illegal immigration does not benefit the American taxpayer, consumer or worker thus we fight to end it.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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Tell us something we don't know but illegal immigration does not benefit the American taxpayer, consumer or worker thus we fight to end it.
I am not giving an opinion on illegal immigration just stating the reasons why the establishment is so against any kind of immigration reform that might reduce the number of illegal immigrants in America. I don't know if you know this but both the Republican and Democratic establishments are extremely unhappy with the current level of immigration/H1B/illegal immigration because they believe it is too low and too restrictive. They really are in a different universe to the voters when it comes to immigration.
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Old 03-27-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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I am not giving an opinion on illegal immigration just stating the reasons why the establishment is so against any kind of immigration reform that might reduce the number of illegal immigrants in America. I don't know if you know this but both the Republican and Democratic establishments are extremely unhappy with the current level of immigration/H1B/illegal immigration because they believe it is too low and too restrictive. They really are in a different universe to the voters when it comes to immigration.

I didn't say it was your opinion. We are all well aware why illegal immigration has been allowed to continue to provide cheap labor for greedy businesses who are in the back pockets of our politicians. We are also aware that it's the same reason that our politicians want to increase H1B visas. There is no reform needed just enforcement of our current immigration laws.
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