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Old 03-25-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: la la land
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Are you talking about illegal aliens? Since these people come and identify themselves as an illegal alien, why are they not reported to ICE? I guess there is a data base though and if that is accessed, easy catch!
The state does not report them to ICE, why should they? They are not criminals, they just want to legally drive their car. Contrary to what you might think there is no current plan in place to deport undocumented people who have NOT committed a crime.
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Don't they identify who they have in custody? I would think the immigration status would become quickly evident unless, like many, they are committing identity fraud and even that should be able to be detected.
Of course they do, everyone arrested is fingerprinted and fingerprints are run through a database but a person who has come into the US illegally doesn't usually stop at the local police department and get fingerprinted so the only way you would know if they are here in violation of immigration laws is if they were previously arrested and fingerprinted.
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Considering the person high tailed it out of there when law enforcement was mentioned, that is very likely the case. It isn't that hard to tell an illegal from a citizen if one is around them for any period of time. You get a "feel" for it, those that disrespect our laws.
Sorry but "getting a feel for it" doesn't mean a thing. Border control is not going to respond code 3 to question your alleged illegal and arrest them..in fact if you hadn't played that so badly the guy might have stuck around and made arrangements to pay for your damages in the accident. Even a citizen who is of hispanic descent is unlikely to stick around when some bully boy is accusing them of being an "illegal".
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Want the illegal aliens to move out of the neighborhood, report their loose dog, codes violation or loud music and many will immediately relocate just after local police show up at the door!
Of course they will leave because they don't want to be deported, but what an honorable thing to do, report them for loud music then hide in the house and giggle as they move out of your neighborhood. Just be careful about playing that game with some good old white boy crank dealer, you report their dogs or loud music and you are likely to part ways with your teeth or come home and find your house vandalized.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Here's the thing. The sheriff does not work for the Feds.
Here is the reason your sheriff works for the Federal government: as posted by Quick Enough:

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swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect, and
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It's a failure on the part of the Feds that we have all these aliens here in the first place.
It was the policy of the last two administrations and in particular the last one with its 'catch and release' program that hampered our border agencies and ICE, but not the new one.

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If someone breaks the law, Metro takes them to jail. What the Feds want is for the jail to hold these people after they are released until ICE feels like coming to pick them up, or if Metro has incidental contact with someone on ICE's list, they want Metro to bring them to jail even if they haven't broken local law.
One: Under the past administration that was true as ICE was directed not to pursue the law. Two: You make me laugh....why would your police department put any one in jail who hasn't broken the law?

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Booking a guy into jail takes a cop off the street for some time because of all the paperwork and whatnot. Do you think the Feds are going to reimburse us for that? How about for the costs of holding them in jail until they feel like picking them up?
So if a legal citizen breaks the law you expect the Feds to reimburse your police department? What different does it make who breaks the law they all require 'paperwork'.

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I don't like illegal immigration. It has put a horrible burden on our school system and our county hospital. If I was governor Sandoval, I'd send the Mexican consulate a bill every month. But that doesn't mean that Clark County should shoulder the financial burden if the federal governments failure to secure the border.
I agree with the first part of this statement but the last part is because of the refusal of democrats to act in our countries best interest. But you are now seeing the current administration actually doing something.

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On Harry Reid. Harry used to be a good Senator. I'm glad he retired. That should have happened a long time ago, but you don't vote out a politician who has that kind of power to help your state. That would be stupid.
Just how did Reid help Nevada....lining his own pockets in shady land deals and looking the other way when shady casino owners slip him campaign money? Harry Reid was nothing but a power broker who's only goal was Harry Reid.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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We elected Harry a long time before the Californicators showed up in droves. He's been around since the mob ran things.
Harry Reid was basally financed by the mob. And it was the transplanted Californians who keep him in office.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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Here is the reason your sheriff works for the Federal government: as posted by Quick Enough: It was the policy of the last two administrations and in particular the last one with its 'catch and release' program that hampered our border agencies and ICE, but not the new one.
Try reading the 10th amendment
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One: Under the past administration that was true as ICE was directed not to pursue the law. Two: .
Wrong, the stated aim of ICE under Obama was the same as that under Trump, arrest criminal aliens.
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So if a legal citizen breaks the law you expect the Feds to reimburse your police department? What different does it make who breaks the law they all require 'paperwork'.
When a person is detained for ICE, they are held past the time that the jail would have them in custody, the associated costs for that should be reimbursed.

And if you had bothered reading before talking you would have learned the following:

METRO FIRES BACK

Metro called the report unfair. “We believe the report released today by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement unfairly portrays the LVMPD as a ‘non-cooperative jurisdiction,’” the agency said in a statement Monday afternoon. “The LVMPD does, in fact, participate in the 287(g) program as a jail-based review of immigration status and has for many years.” The statement was referring to ICE’s “delegated authority” program, which allows local corrections officers to be deputized as immigration agents.

But Metro has indicated it has been cooperating with federal immigration authorities this year. Since early January, department officials have said, it began running the 48-hour detainer clock after notifying ICE at booking when a person was identified as a potential immigration violator. That means the detainer period largely coincides with the normal probable cause detention, thereby avoiding the issue raised in the Oregon case, department officials say.
Las Vegas police reject report saying department doesn
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Try reading the 10th amendment
Wrong, the stated aim of ICE under Obama was the same as that under Trump, arrest criminal aliens.
When a person is detained for ICE, they are held past the time that the jail would have them in custody, the associated costs for that should be reimbursed.

And if you had bothered reading before talking you would have learned the following:

METRO FIRES BACK

Metro called the report unfair. “We believe the report released today by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement unfairly portrays the LVMPD as a ‘non-cooperative jurisdiction,’” the agency said in a statement Monday afternoon. “The LVMPD does, in fact, participate in the 287(g) program as a jail-based review of immigration status and has for many years.” The statement was referring to ICE’s “delegated authority” program, which allows local corrections officers to be deputized as immigration agents.

But Metro has indicated it has been cooperating with federal immigration authorities this year. Since early January, department officials have said, it began running the 48-hour detainer clock after notifying ICE at booking when a person was identified as a potential immigration violator. That means the detainer period largely coincides with the normal probable cause detention, thereby avoiding the issue raised in the Oregon case, department officials say.
Las Vegas police reject report saying department doesn
I believe the current administration will be dealing with unlawful Sanctuary policies very shortly. You being a retired police office should know the law and obey your oath to the Constitution.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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I believe the current administration will be dealing with unlawful Sanctuary policies very shortly. You being a retired police office should know the law and obey your oath to the Constitution.
Trump can't even get his own party to repeal the ACA and he's going to deal with Sanctuary City policies ?Really?

An oath to uphold the Constitution does not obligate a State or Local Official to enforce Federal law. Believe it or not they used to teach that stuff in High School Civics.. but if you missed it, go read up on the 10th amendment .

Now, I would like to keep playing but I have real life stuff to do, ta ta for now
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Old 03-26-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/murders

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac
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Old 03-27-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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An oath to uphold the Constitution does not obligate a State or Local Official to enforce Federal law. Believe it or not they used to teach that stuff in High School Civics.. but if you missed it, go read up on the 10th amendment .
I don't expect a state official to do the feds job but I would expect them to pick up the phone and get them involved. If a local LE agency apprehends someone and it turns out they are on some FBI most wanted list, wouldn't you expect the local agency to contact the FBI and turn them over? Same goes for an illegal.

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Old 03-27-2017, 07:14 AM
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These municipalities should be sued in federal court for harboring illegals https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324 and the fines should be used to build the wall.
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Old 03-27-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: la la land
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I don't expect a state official to do the feds job but I would expect them to pick up the phone and get them involved. If a local LE agency apprehends someone and it turns out they are on some FBI most wanted list, wouldn't you expect the local agency to contact the FBI and turn them over? Same goes for an illegal.
Pick up what phone, call who and tell them what?
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