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If we legalized the good non lying DACA people and the RAISE
Act passed, over 20 years that's 10 million less third worlders for allowing the less than 800k English speaking DACA to stay.
And if birthright citizenship was stopped for illegals.
That's a huge win!
I don't think that the DACAs should be used as a bargaining tool. Let them return to their homelands along with their families here illegally and apply to come back legally while waiting their turn in line.
I don't think that the DACAs should be used as a bargaining tool. Let them return to their homelands along with their families here illegally and apply to come back legally while waiting their turn in line.
You're too inflexible. DACA will indeed be used as a bargaining chip unfortunately. I'm just hoping for a fair immigration paired with a tough, nonsense enforcement of our employment and immigration laws.
You're too inflexible. DACA will indeed be used as a bargaining chip unfortunately. I'm just hoping for a fair immigration paired with a tough, nonsense enforcement of our employment and immigration laws.
Cannot happen. Fact of life. The CofCs are well capable of defending their space. And we will never approve an expenditure sufficient to enforce the existing laws.
I don't think that the DACAs should be used as a bargaining tool. Let them return to their homelands along with their families here illegally and apply to come back legally while waiting their turn in line.
Any significant compromise on immigration is going to require dealing with the whole subject and that will have to include a path to legalization for most of the present illegals.
The Congress may be able to do some quick fix on the Dreamers but it will have little else. Perhaps a couple of billion to increased security at the border. Anything else get filibustered.
Any action will need Democrat support.
Just let it expire. No Democrat support needed for that. Bills will just never make it out of committee. And even if they do, how many bills did Harry Reid table in the Senate? Well over 300? There you go...
Asking for special favors for illegal aliens is particularly bad optics for the foreseeable future as millions of US citizens have been hit hard by Harvey and Irma. Helping those US citizens must be the priority.
Just let it expire. No Democrat support needed for that. Bills will just never make it out of committee. And even if they do, how many bills did Harry Reid table in the Senate? Well over 300? There you go...
Asking for special favors for illegal aliens is particularly bad optics for the foreseeable future as millions of US citizens have been hit hard by Harvey and Irma. Helping those US citizens must be the priority.
DACA isn't costing the country any money so I'm not sure what you mean. In fact, they have to pay money to stay here.
Yes, it is. It's costing jobs that should be filled by US citizens, instead. It's costing extra demands on resources and infrastructure. And more. Etc.
You would have to change the Constitution for that
Not necessary. All we need to do is actually enforce the 14th Amendment. As has been explained numerous times in this forum...
How we know illegal aliens' US-born children, so-called "anchor babies," are NOT 14th Amendment US citizens:
Had it been the general understanding in the late 1800s that everyone born in the US, after the 14th Amendment was ratified, regardless of their parents' citizenship status was a US citizen (it wasn't, and they're not), Wong Kim Ark's case never would have had to go through the US court system and all the way to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court then ruled that children born in the US to permanent resident alien parents were born US citizens:
"The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative."
Additionally, the USCIS has stated quite directly that illegal aliens are NOT permanent resident aliens. Their children are not US citizens.
"An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien."
When the parents are not US citizens or permanent resident aliens, their child/ren are not US citizens. The children are citizens/subjects of the parents' home country
DACA isn't costing the country any money so I'm not sure what you mean. In fact, they have to pay money to stay here.
It will cost 800,000 jobs that should go to Americans and add a permanent stress on our natural and social resources. It will send a message that all you have to do is drag your kids across the border illegally and they'll be home free. That will be a future cost.
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