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This is why no one takes the left's talking points seriously. "Ripped from the arms of their mothers"? "War crimes"? Give it a rest. A few toddlers get splashed all over the TV and suddenly the government is apparently in the business of destroying families and warehousing children in cages.
And it's not his staff doing anything. It's ICE. At least try to act like you've got some sense when you're spewing out a bunch of completely inaccurate crap. Perhaps, instead of carefully choosing words to invoke the most horrid of images, you might demand that the words be chosen to actually reflect the truth.
If you don't separate the kids, you have 2 choices. Keep the kids in with the adults or house the families in their own separate apartments, essentially. Releasing them to someone who claims to be a relative needs a little investigation. Anyone can be an aunt or uncle. It needs to be proven because you know the first time ICE releases a kid into the custody of a trafficker, all hell will break loose. I guess option number 3 is to release the whole family into the interior and just hope they show up for court. This is what the left wants and if this is what happens we may as well not even have a border. Just let everyone in, right?
How about fixing the system so people can come legally? Like eliminating backlogs, fast-tracking applications, etc. But then it's just a kangaroo process full of kangaroo courts and jails. All of this angst over a civil violation that is often misrepresented by partisans as a criminal matter!
The immigration department is a disorganized mess full of paper applications strewn everywhere. But then Republicans love Big government when it doesn't affect their lives. Reforms won't happen since the department is unaccountable to the people they serve.
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That's pretty nervy from a dude who managed to snag 2 out of 3 wives via unscrupulous methods of immigration, no?
Ivana married a ski instructor to get a visa to come here, only to bail on him and move to Canada, then to eventually meet The Donald and marry him. Took her 11 more years to actually become a citizen.
Melania came here to do some "modeling" and took jobs when she wasn't authorized to do it. Wound up on an immigration path designed for people with exceptional talents.
I don't care out well she pouts while wearing baby oil for B-rate photographers, nothing about that is "exceptional."
So, yeah... he's a hypocrite.
I think Melania's "marriage" is an immigration scam at this point. Where is the affection? She can't stand holding hands with him. Why is she still missing in public? Don't be surprised if evidence comes out to make Trump a hypocrite on immigration!
Um, when someone is fleeing a hostile government, they are considered a refugee and it is not illegal to come here. Trump has shut down the legal processing centers (slowed them down to where they are not processing refugees), it leaves them no options. Technically, he is not following the law.
They are being turned around at the border because we have no more room for them because we have been overwhelmed with them. What should we do let them in anyway? They need to return to a country that is still allowing in asylum seekers and hasn't had that problem. So yes, there are other options. That doesn't give them the right to enter our country illegally instead.
Um, when someone is fleeing a hostile government, they are considered a refugee and it is not illegal to come here. Trump has shut down the legal processing centers (slowed them down to where they are not processing refugees), it leaves them no options. Technically, he is not following the law.
How about fixing the system so people can come legally? Like eliminating backlogs, fast-tracking applications, etc. But then it's just a kangaroo process full of kangaroo courts and jails. All of this angst over a civil violation that is often misrepresented by partisans as a criminal matter!
The immigration department is a disorganized mess full of paper applications strewn everywhere. But then Republicans love Big government when it doesn't affect their lives. Reforms won't happen since the department is unaccountable to the people they serve.
I think Melania's "marriage" is an immigration scam at this point. Where is the affection? She can't stand holding hands with him. Why is she still missing in public? Don't be surprised if evidence comes out to make Trump a hypocrite on immigration!
What you and yours aren't getting is that we don't need all these poor, unskilled and uneducated coming to our country as they are burden to our society rather than a benefit. We have annual quotas for legal immigration and for good reasons. What should we do, change our sane quotas and policies just to accommodate anyone who wants to come here even though we don't need them? It's a violation of our immigration laws to come here illegally no matter what you want to call it.
You are privy to what is going on in our government in regards to immigration applications? I imagine that they are overwhelmed with applications. None of this has to do with big government or Republicans specifically. Reform is just "amnesty" and we don't need that again. That's not being accountable to those our politicians are supposed to serve which is our own citizens.
It doesn't matter what you think of Melania or her marriage to Trump. She is a U.S. citizen now. Besides you're getting off topic now. You might want to re-read what this topic is about and quit deflecting.
It’s not that they want to. But stating or going back could be worse. Still bad. But maybe the new strategy wod be to either not get caught and if you are, atleast your kid would be in a better country.
I promise you if I took 500 people looking to go to Mexico or Canada we would be met with force as we would be perceived to be an invasion. Never mind 5,000. Whether they brought kids with them or not. It would be seen as an invasion. ESPECIALLY if we were looking for hand outs and start ups.
Let's do that. Seriously. Let's get 5000 of our impoverished together and head to Mexico or Canada and see what happens.
But many of them are coming in legally, it's called seeking asylum. Trump in an anti-American way is denying the existence of asylum; he keeps lying saying they are all illegal. That is false evil messaging just like his hateful wife with her "I don't care, Do you" jacket. They continue to lobby for coldness and hate towards refugees fleeing for their lives. That is Goebbels, Nazi stuff right there.
The last thing decent people should want is this clown influencing their hearts and minds.
Utter nonsense! Coming here illegally is not seeking asylum. You have to present yourself at a border checkpoint to ask for that. He's not calling anyone "illegal" unless they have crossed our border illegally. Stop making stuff up.
No one is lobbying for coldness or hate. Trump and his supporters just want immigrants and asylum seekers to come where within our laws. Most of these asylum seekers don't have a valid claim such as supposedly fleeing for their lives as 75% of them are denied.
Oh, here comes the Nazi card just like clockwork! Get back with us we start burning them in ovens or gassing them.
They are being turned around at the border because we have no more room for them because we have been overwhelmed with them. What should we do let them in anyway? They need to return to a country that is still allowing in asylum seekers and hasn't had that problem. So yes, there are other options. That doesn't give them the right to enter our country illegally instead.
Sounds like that is a different issue than what Trump is claiming then. Instead of him breaking the law because he's too inept to deal with a legit problem, he should either fix the problem, or change the law to reflect changing times.
Right now he is proactively going out of his way to make it impossible for these people to come in legally. Turn it around: You've been uprooted from your home due to civil unrest. You have no home to go to. You risk life to get to the USA to enter LEGALLY, but when you get there, it's like WallyWorld. CLOSED! You can't come in the USA legally, and you don't have a home to go to.
I don't advocate opening our borders (nobody I've actually met wants that). But Trump is, at best, handling it poorly. And so is the rest of DC, R & D alike. Blame them all. But we need to fix the problem. America is a country full of people either fleeing a bad scene, or gravitating toward more opportunity. Anyone who calls themself a "Conservative" would need to find a way to continue in the direction our founding fathers intended. Right now, our government is failing us, and in this case, Trump is not only the figure-head, but he is actually leading the way on this issue.
If you don't like conservative values, this is going to put you in a very awkward position.
great answer Mr. President, these illegals know they'll be separated form their children, they don't care. Their governments have issued warnings.
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