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Old 10-29-2021, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Talk about dehumanizing! To say they contribute nothing is way beneath you.
I’m sorry you can’t accept facts. You and others on here constantly dehumanize illegal immigrants. It doesn’t feel so good when you’re subject to the same treatment, does it?
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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you're looking at them poorly.



there were 1.7MM total encounters from this info.
1.1MM of those were single adults.
916K of that 1.1M were under Biden.

ergo, 200K single adults in 4 months of Trump. 900K in 8 months of Biden.

Now, if you're interested in TOTALS (including families and children), then just go back to the CBP chart and add up the first 4 months compared to the last 8 months. You really won't want to do it though.

also, in 2018 we apprehended a total of only 300K, so letting ~230K in is a problem.
yo, Cruz. Right over here.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:10 PM
 
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How are illegal aliens being dehumanized in this forum? That makes no sense at all. Stating the facts about them is dehumanizing now? All law breakers get the treatment they deserve but it certainly doesn't equate dehumanizing them!
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Old 10-29-2021, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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How are illegal aliens being dehumanized in this forum? That makes no sense at all. Stating the facts about them is dehumanizing now? All law breakers get the treatment they deserve but it certainly doesn't equate dehumanizing them!
It’s probably difficult for you to comprehend but even if you claim it isn’t your intent that your words can be (and is) perceived this way by others.
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Old 10-30-2021, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I’m sorry you can’t accept facts. You and others on here constantly dehumanize illegal immigrants. It doesn’t feel so good when you’re subject to the same treatment, does it?
It’s not a fact. I’m not one of those you were talking about. Joust pointing out something you’re being hypocritical about. If you don’t like people dehumanizing Illegal Aliens, don’t turn around and do it to others yourself.
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Old 10-30-2021, 06:11 AM
 
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It’s not a fact. I’m not one of those you were talking about. Joust pointing out something you’re being hypocritical about. If you don’t like people dehumanizing Illegal Aliens, don’t turn around and do it to others yourself.
Yet, that poster doesn't provide any examples of illegal aliens being "dehumanized" in this forum. That word doesn't even belong in the discussion of the facts. We point out that they are here in violation of our immigration law....fact, they are taking jobs from Americans by working for less....fact, many times commit felony ID fraud and/or tax evasion....fact, take more than they contribute in taxes.....fact, have created overcrowded conditions and have put added stress on our natural and social resources.....fact. Where is the "dehumanization"? Those are just the facts!

What does it mean to be dehumanized?
Definition of dehumanize. a : to subject (someone, such as a prisoner) to conditions or treatment that are inhuman or degrading ".

How does posting the facts about them in this forum fit the description above? Posting the facts about law breakers, foreign or domestic is not dehumanizing them. They are still humans but human lawbreakers! For example, I guess we can't point out that the actions of thieves is against the law and that they harm the victims they steal from or it is dehumanizing them?

These pro-illegals are so desperate to defend these law breakers that they make victims out of them and bad guys out of us. Talk about arse backwards thinking......
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Old 10-30-2021, 04:22 PM
 
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I thank all veterans for their service and appreciate the years of hard work that American retirees contributed to the American economy. Do both of those facts justify cranky and bitter demeanor? No, they do not. Also, the fact remains that retirees are currently contributing ZERO to the economy whereas illegal immigrant workers are contributing. This fact cannot be disputed.
There goes your broken window fallacy again. Two wrongs don't make it right. Retirees worked and are benefiting from the system they paid into, from the government of which they followed the laws. fool.
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Old 10-30-2021, 04:36 PM
 
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There goes your broken window fallacy again. Two wrongs don't make it right. Retirees worked and are benefiting from the system they paid into, from the government of which they followed the laws. fool.
Exactly! How rotten to attack us American seniors just because we are retired and aren't working anymore and use that as an excuse to justify workers here illegally. There are millions of working aged Americans still in the workforce to. Everyone retires eventually even these illegal workers will. There are other ways to contribute to society besides having a job. We still pay taxes on our incomes even in retirement and many of us do volunteer work or are active in our communities in other ways. We paid into SS and Medicare all our lives so we have every right to draw on it.

I didn't get that bitter and cranky remark either. The only seniors I know of that might be cranky are usually those with health issues and most of us aren't bitter either. Do we object to illegal immigration? Of course we do just any law abiding American should. Politics these days should make anyone a little cranky. Look what a mess our country is in right now under this administration. I didn't serve during Viet Nam to help keep our country safer to accept the invasion of our own borders.
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Old 10-31-2021, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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There goes your broken window fallacy again. Two wrongs don't make it right. Retirees worked and are benefiting from the system they paid into, from the government of which they followed the laws. fool.
What I was stating was factual. A retiree who isn’t working isn’t currently contributing to the US economy. An illegal immigrant working 80 hours a week washing dishes full-time in two different restaurants is.
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Old 10-31-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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Once again, illegal aliens take more than they contribute in taxes when you consider their social costs. Any job they are holding should have gone to an American and it would have been for a higher wage and therefore they would be paying higher taxes from that job than an illegal.

Many seniors still work or are paying taxes on their income (pensions, 401-k's, SS, etc.) even if they aren't working. Trying to justify illegal aliens working here by comparing them to our American seniors and working Americans is ludicrous and anti-American to say the least!
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