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Old 01-11-2007, 06:07 PM
 
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Now am i missing something here or does this article have serious issues.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_re_us/massachusetts_immigration (broken link)

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Old 01-11-2007, 10:25 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Will they be sent to prisons in thir home countries or are they set free there to only return once again? Most are arrested 6 times.. why is the 3 strike law not being used.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:06 AM
 
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So if i'm not reading something into this that isn't, there first policy was to arrest ill immigrants.

now it's concentrate on the gun, gang, & drug problems let the ill immigrants do as they may.

the part i don't get is the illegals do a crime, get sent to prison then they serve there time then we'll consider them for deportation.

prisons are overcrowded as is, but yet lets keep them in there & keep supporting them with tax dollars for years then mayby we will deport them, if not then put them back on the street while we somewhat ignore what they they do so we can concentrate on other things.

wouldn't it make more sence to deport them then apply that state money to hire more law enforcement.

or how about slap a uniform on them 700 per state lets say, 50 states now we have 35,000 troops for iraq deployment or even more if we take the ones out of federal prisons too.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:31 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Will they be sent to prisons in thir home countries or are they set free there to only return once again? Most are arrested 6 times.. why is the 3 strike law not being used.
The 3 strike law is used for felonies.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:33 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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So if i'm not reading something into this that isn't, there first policy was to arrest ill immigrants.
now it's concentrate on the gun, gang, & drug problems let the ill immigrants do as they may.
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The United States does not currently have the manpower and resources to protect a 2,000 mile border. Since 9/11, the FBI and Other Agencies, have mostly concerned themselves with counter-terrorism. They are concerned with larger issues.

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Old 01-12-2007, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Northeast
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The United States does not currently have the manpower and resources to protect a 2,000 mile border. Since 9/11, the FBI and Other Agencies, have mostly concerned themselves with counter-terrorism. They are concerned with larger issues.
Border patrol is an integral part of counter-terrorism operations. These guys won't be flying in on Jihad Airways, and walking through airport security.

-TT
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:14 AM
 
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The United States does not currently have the manpower and resources to protect a 2,000 mile border. Since 9/11, the FBI and Other Agencies, have mostly concerned themselves with counter-terrorism. They are concerned with larger issues.
But this is the larger issue......Read what the illegal aliens are doing to American citizens right here in the United States Our President refuses to protect us from them. He would rather send our military to protect others.

ILLEGAL ALIEN STATISTICS
Summary: On average each day 25 Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens in the United States. Twelve Americans are murdered by criminal aliens. Another ten Americans are killed by drunk-driving criminal aliens. Finally, an additional three Americans will die because of negligent homicides by criminal aliens, such as running a red light, speeding, or the negligent handling of a dangerous weapon.

Murder - The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another. This includes first and second-degree murder, as well as non-negligent manslaughter. Murder does not include deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident; justifiable homicides; attempts to murder or assaults to murder, which are considered “aggravated assaults.”

Negligent Homicide - Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice. It can also be considered a death that is the result of the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, which includes the operation of a car, boat or snowmobile.

Source: Iowa Representative Steve King (IA-5) first brought these alarming statistics to our attention earlier this year. Recently, Congressman King was the guest of Bill O’Reilly who had asked the Iowan come on his show to discuss his findings in greater detail.

Statistics:

Criminal Alien Prison Population –
According to an April 7th, 2005 General Accounting Office (GAO) study entitled, “Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails” [Report # GAO-05-337R] prepared for the Congressional Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims:

“27% of the total population in all U.S. prison systems (including city, county, state and federal) is composed of criminal aliens.”

Total Murders in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the FBI, there were 16,692 persons murdered in the U.S. in 2005. The Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines murder and non-negligent manslaughter as the willful killing of one human being by another.

Total Drunk-Driving Fatalities in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 12,945 Americans were killed in car crashes where the driver had a blood alcohol concentration of .08g/dL or higher in 2005.

Calculations:
Total number of people murdered in the U.S. at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005: 4,507
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of murders in the U.S. in 2005 (.27 x 16,692 = 4,507)
This figure equals approximately 12 murders every day at the hands of criminal aliens (4,507 / 365 = 12)

Total number of people killed in the U.S. as a result of drunk-driving criminal aliens in 2005: 3,495
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 (.27 x 12,945 = 3,495)
This figure equals approximately 10 deaths every day at the hands of criminal alien drunk drivers (3,495 / 365 = 10)

Conclusions:
Twenty-five Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens every day in the U.S.
(12 murders + 10 drunk-driving fatalities + 3 negligent homicides = 25 deaths every day)

In the year 2005, criminal aliens killed more than three times the number of Americans murdered in the terrorist attacks of 9-11 died.
9,125 Americans died at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005, as compared to approximately 3,000 Americans who perished in 9-11.

Additional Statistics:
Federal prison criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in federal prison: 48,708
Mexico 63%, Colombia and Dominican Republic 7% each, Jamaica 4%, Cuba 3% and El Salvador 2%, remaining countries represent less than 2% each.
Source: Bureau of Prisons (BOP)

Top 5 State prisons system criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 51,600
Mexico 58%, Cuba and Dominican Republic 5% each, El Salvador 4%, Jamaica 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.

Top 5 local jails’ criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 170,000
Mexico 65%, El Salvador 6%, Guatemala 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:31 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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It's very dissapointing to hear the consistant negativity towards llegal immigrants.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Western NY
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But this is the larger issue......Read what the illegal aliens are doing to American citizens right here in the United States Our President refuses to protect us from them. He would rather send our military to protect others.

[...]
Top 5 local jails’ criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 170,000
Mexico 65%, El Salvador 6%, Guatemala 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.
I AGREE WITH YOU- this is the bigger picture...no one wants to do anything about it...plenty may complain but that it...Thanks for providing such a detailed account.

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Old 01-12-2007, 09:03 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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It's very dissapointing to hear the consistant negativity towards llegal immigrants.
Its more disapointing that you support them.. even after reading the post above yours.

I think you think America is Anti-Mexican.. no what your seeing is Anti-Illegals, just seems that the majority is Hispanic/Mexican, and thats why it may appear that way.
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