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Old 05-27-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Originally Posted by flburgos View Post
whatever.........you just keep bashing away that will stop what's going on.
Oh, exceptional comeback!

You sure put me in my place.

One thing you can certainly say about me is that I know for certain when I've been verbally spanked by superb orator.

I bow before your superior rhetorical skills. You certainly won't hear another peep out of me....

 
Old 05-27-2008, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by flburgos View Post
Here we go saying all latinos are on the same wavelength.It's no different than going to suburban america and then going to a trailer park.There educated and none educated in all races my friend.
I read both yours and Kele's posts-----------how dare you even infer that she is a racist!

No; filburgos, you clearly have a problem comprehending her posts.

If you have such an attitude against US culture; do us all a favor and move to another country..................otherwise:

American; love it or leave it!
 
Old 05-27-2008, 07:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Hey AZ...
 
Old 05-28-2008, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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It's kind of funny that saying "that's racist!" or "you're racist!" holds any intellectual value at all in a debate. It's like saying that automatically negates anything you just said and gets you out of addressing the other person's viewpoints.
 
Old 05-28-2008, 09:18 AM
 
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I read both yours and Kele's posts-----------how dare you even infer that she is a racist!

No; filburgos, you clearly have a problem comprehending her posts.

If you have such an attitude against US culture; do us all a favor and move to another country..................otherwise:

American; love it or leave it!
What I don't see is how someone who insists that Mexicans have a racist right to break whatever USA law they don't wish to follow wouldn't admit they are a racist.

Unless that person believes that all Africans, Asians, and everyone else in the world should come pouring over the borders and demand services in their own language. Many seem to believe that everything should be offered in Spanish, but I don't see them saying that it's time people here learn every language of the world because all people are entitled to move here in unlimited numbers and shouldn't have to adapt to our ways, most seem to reserve that privilege for Mexicans -- and that is racist.
 
Old 05-28-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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Well immigration forum, Iíd like to take a moment to share my own views on immigration, immigrants (both legal and illegal). As you may be able to figure out, Iím not American and I donít even live there anymore! For your information, Iím IRISH and if you donít want to hear some bloody foreigner rambling on about immigration, then I suggest you stop reading right now.

Listen people, illegal immigration is not the problem that is dragging your country down. Itís your clown of a president and his warmongering ways, dragging your country into a ghastly and expensive war, the costs of which youíll be paying back for generations to come.

MOD CUT This is an open forum and Iím giving you the opportunity to be honest and tell us all how you REALLY feel. Let me put it this way, Iím pretty sure that if all the ďillegalsĒ you people love to complain about so much where white Anglos, most of you wouldnít even give a ratís arse, nor would you care to notice.

Illegals arenít stealing your jobs, your jobs are being lost because of corporations outsourcing their jobs to countries where labour is cheaper, such as India. Have any of you ever called Dell lately, only to be answered by an Indian lady working at a call centre in Calcutta?

When I lived in America, I saw a lot of silent racism towards Hispanics in particular. People wonít just come out and admit that they dislike Hispanics, but they hide behind sly little remarks and innuendos instead. Even on this forum, Iíve read posts about how horrible it is to live near Hispanics and how people dread the Hispanics coming to town. It kind of reminds me of that South Park episode featuring the Goobacks, in which they cried ďThey took our jobs!!Ē.

The answer to Americaís perceived problem with illegal immigration doesnít lie in blaming the immigrants themselves. They are just people who are searching for a better life, just like your ancestors before you. Itís human nature to see a better opportunity and grab it with both hands for the sake of your own family. If you people were born in Tijuana and had California on your doorstep, Iím PRETTY SURE that 99.99% of you would choose to hop the border, just like the Mexicans you chastise and blame.

The answer lies in a) helping Mexico reach the economic and social prosperity that it badly deserves and b) improving border security instead of wasting billions of dollars on pointless wars. If Mexico was a prosperous country, Iím pretty sure that most Mexicans would choose to stay home instead of trying to flee their homeland. Mexico has massive potential and if the United States were truly smart, itíd do everything in its power to unlock that potential and practice completely free trade. However, until the ďthem and usĒ mentality comes to an end, I donít see things improving.

Basically, stop your complaining and at least learn to accept people, without labeling them as criminals. They are only human beings and one thing they deserve is to be treated with dignity. Besides, letís face itÖAmerica (like many nations) has an aging population and it actually needs more workers to help keep the aging population. Learn to accept different cultures and enjoy the diversity. Every human being brings something different to the table, as is the case with a particular culture.
Im curious, when did you live in America?...and why did you leave?
 
Old 06-19-2008, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Denver
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It's kind of funny that saying "that's racist!" or "you're racist!" holds any intellectual value at all in a debate. It's like saying that automatically negates anything you just said and gets you out of addressing the other person's viewpoints.
Bump to the top...

Moderator comments...

You see it is not race baiting to post a link to Mexican sites which generalize thoughts on Americans.

However, it is race baiting to post a link to American sites which generalize thoughts on Mexicans.

<--Double Standard-->

Last edited by Mach50; 06-19-2008 at 02:31 PM..
 
Old 06-19-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Bump to the top...

Moderator comments...

You see it is not race baiting to post a link to Mexican sites which generalize thoughts on Americans.

However, it is race baiting to post a link to American sites which generalize thoughts on Mexicans.

<--Double Standard-->
Mexicans are not a race.

That stated: most people of 'Mexican' heritage; if not counted as 'Hispanic', would be counted as American Indian here in the USA
 
Old 06-19-2008, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
Bump to the top...

Moderator comments...

You see it is not race baiting to post a link to Mexican sites which generalize thoughts on Americans.

However, it is race baiting to post a link to American sites which generalize thoughts on Mexicans.

<--Double Standard-->

Huh? Why are you quoting me and saying "moderator comments"?
 
Old 06-19-2008, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Huh? Why are you quoting me and saying "moderator comments"?
Hi El Rhino, my post above is an example of how my thread:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/immig...-mexicans.html

Is not race-baiting as I was being accused of. Essentially, these 2 threads are of the same 'Topic' but reciprocates of each other.


The reason I said Moderator comments was to show that a Moderator actually posted a good response along the same lines in the example thread.

There was no malice in my quoting of you.
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