If birthright citizenship is overturned, how should we handle the status of current anchor children? (illegal immigrants, Mexican)
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On another note. Does anyone know if the ethnic Europeans who arrived in waves (late 18th/early 19th centuries) still hold a grudge and regularly vote against the party that was in power when the migration spigat was shut off in the 1920's. I mean if these pro-illegals are right, most Italian, Irish, Greek immigrant decendants must be pre-occupied about those hateful Wasps and Germans who didn't want their ancestors here anymore. Benjamin Franklin hated the Germans immigrants arriving in his time. Has anyone ever attended an Oktoberfest event where they where burning a Ben Franklin effigy. When birthright citizenship is rescinded and chain migration ended and the border sealed, U.S. hispanics will go back to the same ol' grind every other American will. There will be no valuable or long-term repercussions.
You want to know some irony? A guy living near me was commenting on the amnesty - which he wants for himself but he said that since he's from Mexico, the wages he expects to have are higher than what a Central American would require and he said it would be bad to have a flood of them coming over and how would he ever compete with wages with them.
He even said that it's probably better not to have the amnesty because so many will come trying to get in on it - and he was worried about the competition he'd face for his own job!
Human nature is human nature. Only the worst bleeding hearts really believe that we should open the borders even more than they are and bring in the 2 billion plus impoverished people of the world so we can give them all a nice comfortable standard of living here.
Only the most very naive are so gullible to believe that's feasible.
The population I believe is somewhere in the low 40 millions and no, not all of them are legal by a long shot. So what's 43 million hispanics minus the 11 million or so (total of 15 million illegals, but 2-3 million are Asian, 1+ million African or black carribean and about 900,000 European).
The U.S. Hispanic population is estimated to be 46.9 million:
US Census Press Releases (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/013984.html - broken link)
You're saying that includes the illegal population also?
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'd just like to look at the link and the source.
You are incorrect. There are only about 40 million legal hispanic citizens including those to young to vote. They are only a drop in the bucket compared to the other 260 million non-hispanics including those who are too young to vote. The hispanic vote doesn't mean squat.
It seems like there are too many people in this forum that live alterate realities, Hispanics participate in larger number than any other ethnicities in the USA, of the approximate 45million hispanic american about 27 million can vote, while the balance of power int the USA is just a few million votes, do your numbers and you will see why every politician in this coutry caters to the hispanic-americans who also happen to be by far the fastest growing group, viva la raza!!!!!!
It seems like there are too many people in this forum that live alterate realities, Hispanics participate in larger number than any other ethnicities in the USA, of the approximate 45million hispanic american about 27 million can vote, while the balance of power int the USA is just a few million votes, do your numbers and you will see why every politician in this coutry caters to the hispanic-americans who also happen to be by far the fastest growing group, viva la raza!!!!!!
And the reality is that Latinos as a group are less likely to vote vs. other groups. Besides: what would the la raza types do if the same percentage of Anglos and Blacks voted?
Think about it----------that sword cuts both ways.
And the reality is that Latinos as a group are less likely to vote vs. other groups. Besides: what would the la raza types do if the same percentage of Anglos and Blacks voted?
Think about it----------that sword cuts both ways.
nothing further from the truth...., dems/reps go split the vote evenly with 2 or 3 million votes balancing power one way or the other, the powerful hispanic vote can sway the election easily, this year hispanics elected Obama and in return he inmediately nominated the first hispanic supreme judge and next year will pass amnesty....
nothing further from the truth...., dems/reps go split the vote evenly with 2 or 3 million votes balancing power one way or the other, the powerful hispanic vote can sway the election easily, this year hispanics elected Obama and in return he inmediately nominated the first hispanic supreme judge and next year will pass amnesty....
Time will tell----------and, I am willing to bet a lot of $$$ that you will be proven wrong.
As for Obama: what really helped him was a 90% turnout of Black voters--------along with quite a few Anglo White ones.
With almost 50 million hispanic-american us citizens, that would be the equivalent of political suicide....
Yeah but 30 million are illegal and can't vote so there goes that theory. Besides the fact the many more millions of Americans are sick of these border hoping rats that they may even go out and vote.
Why are you downplaying the importance of Latinos in America?
Who is downplaying the importance of true blue Americans or green card holders of 'Latino' heritage? The ones I hold in contempt are the illegal aliens and their enablers (of any race/ethnicity).
With almost 50 million hispanic-american us citizens, that would be the equivalent of political suicide....
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Beleive me, for the people that matter(elected officials), the very heavy
hispanic vote with almost 50 million legal citizens, is something to cherish,
but, pardon moi, are you saying that hispanic-americans are leaving the country?????, ha, ha ,ha, I don't think so.......
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Originally Posted by Latin King
It seems like there are too many people in this forum that live alterate realities, Hispanics participate in larger number than any other ethnicities in the USA, of the approximate 45million hispanic american about 27 million can vote, while the balance of power int the USA is just a few million votes, do your numbers and you will see why every politician in this coutry caters to the hispanic-americans who also happen to be by far the fastest growing group, viva la raza!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Latin King
nothing further from the truth...., dems/reps go split the vote evenly with 2 or 3 million votes balancing power one way or the other, the powerful hispanic vote can sway the election easily, this year hispanics elected Obama and in return he inmediately nominated the first hispanic supreme judge and next year will pass amnesty....
Almost 50 million legal Hispanics in this country? I think not. It is estimated that there are 46 million Hispanics currently living in this country. It is also estimated that 75% of illegal aliens are Hispanic. Since the census does in fact include illegals, we must subtract the number of illegal aliens from the total Hispanic population to arrive at the total number of Hispanic-Americans in this country.
If we have 12-20 million illegal aliens, and 75% of illegals are Hispanic, we have 9-15 million illegal Hispanics. If the 12 million figure is accurate, that would reduce the total legal Hispanic population to 37 million. If the 20 million figure is accurate, that would reduce the total legal Hispanic population to 31 million. Both figures are less than the black population in this country, which is estimated to be 41 million.
Clearly, ethnocentric Hispanics have a vested interest in including Hispanic illegal aliens in their numbers. If not for MASSIVE Hispanic illegal immigration, and the millions of children they give birth to on U.S. soil, Hispanics would not have been elevated to the majority-minority slot. Furthermore, given that “Hispanic” can be from any race -- what are we really talking about, other than a shared language? Hispanic is as much a “race” as being an “American.” Moreover, if whites are the majority in this country, and many “Hispanics” are indeed white, why are white “Hispanics” even considered a minority?
As for your delusional belief that “Hispanics elected Obama” and, that in return, he will pass an amnesty. . . . dream on, DREAMie. Obama could NOT have been elected without the black and white votes. I’m so sick of hearing that the Hispanics were solely responsible for Obama winning the election. It’s pure hyperbole.
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