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View Poll Results: What do you believe we should do with the anchor children already here?
Strip them of citizenship, as it was granted under conflict with the 14th amendment 10 26.32%
Allow them to retain citizenship, as it wasn't their fault their parents came here illegally 15 39.47%
Allow those to retain citizenship if at least one of their parents have become legal, or they have already reached the age of 18 13 34.21%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-01-2009, 04:38 PM
 
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Since the census does in fact include illegals.
Where did you find this information?

Edit: I guess illegals do have the ability to respond to the census questionnaires.

Still, most of them don't respond according to this article:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0516/p01s02-ussc.html

"Nailing down such figures is impossible. Even settling on a ballpark figure is difficult given the official sources: the US Census, apprehensions along the US-Mexico border, and social service agencies. For one thing, illegal immigrants avoid responding to census questionnaires, states a 2005 report by Bear Stearns Asset Management Inc. in New York."


As far as what percentage of the 46.9 million is illegal, I have yet to find that information.

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Old 10-01-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Frequently, you seem to let it slip that your America is White and Black.
And your point being? There is no Hispanic race-----------and, till about 40 years ago, even most Mestizos were counted as White.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Metropolis
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The Hispanic label should be ended. White Hispanics and black hispanics have a much different experience in this country. Mixed race hispanics should be given a chance to pick a mixed category which is acceptable to them, as just choosing white and black (and there isn't even an Amerindian choice), doesn't seem to identify for them. Just add Mestizo or Creole and it would be more palatable for the majority of hispanics that are mixed to choose. Otherwise most mixed Hispanics will choose white, which is not accurate.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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The Hispanic label should be ended. White Hispanics and black hispanics have a much different experience in this country. Mixed race hispanics should be given a chance to pick a mixed category which is acceptable to them, as just choosing white and black (and there isn't even an Amerindian choice), doesn't seem to identify for them. Just add Mestizo or Creole and it would be more palatable for the majority of hispanics that are mixed to choose. Otherwise most mixed Hispanics will choose white, which is not accurate.
I totally agree. On another note, why does Obama only identify himself as being black when he is just as white as he is black racially? He is of mixed race and I believe white/black is called Mulatto.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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Hispanic is a culture and not a race anyway. On the census one is asked to define what race they are not what culture they practice so I don't know why Hispanic is a racial catagory on it then.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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If birthright citizenship is overturned, what would be the point? Is it some sort of "my parents were here before you were so go away!"

What guarantees citizenship then? Passing a test? (lots of people born here would fail that) Would it be ancestoral heritage? (lets just give Native Americans the country because that would be where we're going)

Coming from a white guy, this concept sounds like white man paranoia and one group of people just manipulating the system to stay in power.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Let's hope we get this far...
Would Mitt Romney be deported?
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Would Mitt Romney be deported?
Moot point: Mitt's mother was a native born American so, even if George Romney was an Mexican illegal---------his status would have been trumped.
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If birthright citizenship is overturned, what would be the point? Is it some sort of "my parents were here before you were so go away!"

What guarantees citizenship then? Passing a test? (lots of people born here would fail that) Would it be ancestoral heritage? (lets just give Native Americans the country because that would be where we're going)

Coming from a white guy, this concept sounds like white man paranoia and one group of people just manipulating the system to stay in power.
Us anti's are referring to future Anchor Babies not receiving birthright citizenship----------which would grandfather in existing ones as Americans (at least those age 18 on up).

I am not concerned about those illegal folks who were amnestied.
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The Hispanic label should be ended. White Hispanics and black hispanics have a much different experience in this country. Mixed race hispanics should be given a chance to pick a mixed category which is acceptable to them, as just choosing white and black (and there isn't even an Amerindian choice), doesn't seem to identify for them. Just add Mestizo or Creole and it would be more palatable for the majority of hispanics that are mixed to choose. Otherwise most mixed Hispanics will choose white, which is not accurate.
The Mestizos should be lumped in with American Indians---------although I suspect the Navajo, etc. may take offence for historical reasons.
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