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Old 02-26-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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If the State of Az wants a study to know what it costs to educate illegal alien chidren, means that they dont know what it acutually costs.

so all the "Experts" running around spouting costs... have no proof of cost.

Let AZ find out what it really costs. While the State is at it, they can do a benefit study to see how illegals pay into the system.

then a true cost analysis can be preformed. Because if your bank only showed your withdrawls and not your deposits, what kind of balance would you have. Not a true one.
Most reliable studies on illegal aliens do include the negatives and the postives and draw the conclusion that they are a net negative. Doesn't matter anyway the bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration and that is all that really matters.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Most reliable studies on illegal aliens do include the negatives and the postives and draw the conclusion that they are a net negative. Doesn't matter anyway the bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration and that is all that really matters.
Most simply show cost only, they don't show benefit. What matters is how to make the laws in line with reality and thus how to make our nation better.
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:17 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Most reliable studies on illegal aliens do include the negatives and the postives and draw the conclusion that they are a net negative. Doesn't matter anyway the bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration and that is all that really matters.
Why arent AZ using those studies...because the Pew institute as well as othe like institutions are not a scientific resource. The Pew tracks trends and gives generalizations.

Az knows to have accurite numbers the study has to follow scientific models. not just guestimations.

"Doesn't matter anyway the bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration and that is all that really matters..." Then someone should tell AZ they are wasting millions of Taxpayers dollars because it doesnt matter...Do find out the facts.
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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We can add this to the mix. Why spend billions on educating millions of illegal unwanted and uninvited border jumpers, when we can just round them up and kick them out, with their illegal parents, and replace them with already educated legal immigrants who have been screened to have the qualities and abilities that American really needs?
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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We can add this to the mix. Why spend billions on educating millions of illegal unwanted and uninvited border jumpers, when we can just round them up and kick them out, with their illegal parents, and replace them with already educated legal immigrants who have been screened to have the qualities and abilities that American really needs?
Works for me.

Eliminating the wasteful "need" of bilingual classes. Only those with a high standard and working knowledge of our English language need apply.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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Why arent AZ using those studies...because the Pew institute as well as othe like institutions are not a scientific resource. The Pew tracks trends and gives generalizations.

Az knows to have accurite numbers the study has to follow scientific models. not just guestimations.

"Doesn't matter anyway the bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration and that is all that really matters..." Then someone should tell AZ they are wasting millions of Taxpayers dollars because it doesnt matter...Do find out the facts.
By providing the negative stats it can be used as ammo to encourage our federal government to finally start enforcing our immigration laws both internally and at the border. Apparently the fact that they are here in violation of our immigration laws isn't enough for the feds.
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