why is Indianapolis crime rate at a 30-year high in 2012 (Gary: 2013, theater)

[ladd1361]

Indianapolis crime rate jumps to 30-year high in 2012 - 13 WTHR Indianapolis


Indianapolis crime rate jumps to 30-year high in 2012

Posted: Jun 05, 2013 5:23 PM EDT
Updated: Jun 05, 2013 5:24 PM EDT
By Richard Essex - bio | email



Gary Thrapp was the victim of a shooting last September.
Gary Thrapp was the victim of a shooting last September.

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INDIANAPOLIS -
Violent crime in Indianapolis has jumped to its highest rate in nearly 30 years.

In 2011, police reported more than 9,100 violent crimes in the city. That number jumped to more than 9,900 last year.

The violent crime rate had been going down steadily for a number of years, but that trend has turned around.

It has not quite been a year since Gary Thrapp was attacked. His scars are still healing and his sense of awareness is on high alert.

"A lot of people asking me, they are most curious about 'What does it feel like to be shot?'," said Thrapp.

Like it or not, in September of last year, Thrapp became a statistic. The prominent north side jeweler was robbed at gunpoint and shot in his home. The attempt on his life and robbery make him a victim of one of the 9,900 violent crimes committed in Indianapolis.

For six minutes, Thrapp fought the intruders.

"Their leaving was hastened by me being shot, because they brought zip ties, they zip-tied my wife's arms behind her back," he said.

About a month later, Thrapp was back at work. By the end of 2012, Indianapolis had become a more violent place than the year before, with 700 more violent crimes, which included 101 murders, 436 rapes, 3,442 more robberies than the year before.

"Clearly, I think people need to be...to take more responsibility for their own safety. The police just can't do it and we can't rely on them nor blame them for what we should be doing for ourselves," Thrapp said.

It seems some people are taking their safety and security serious. So far this year, 268,000 federal firearm background checks have been done in Indiana, which is on pace to be a record year.

Indianapolis Metro Police are not surprised by the FBI numbers, considering they gave the feds the numbers. Police say that violent crime numbers had been dropping for years.

IMPD Lt. Chris Bailey says in 2011 they had a lower than normal crime rate and comparing those numbers to an average year like 2012 is not really reflective of the overall crime trend in Marion County.

This year, the department is concerned about the criminal homicide rate, which is up 48 percent from year-to-date 2012.

Metro police say they are concerned about the number of assaults and homicides and have been working on a community-wide plan to bring them down

[ischyros]

It was one year. So far this year crime is much lower in Indianapolis. So what exactly is your point? One year does not a trend make.

[grmasterb]

The short answer: Stuff happens.

End thread.

[ischyros]

Originally Posted by ladd1361

My point is it is not good. Why is this happening??

It was just a random one year spike. It happens in every city. There really is no story.

[Virgil Steiner]

I'll tell you exactly what the problem is, a large segment of the population is raised by single mama's and no daddy around. It's not unusual that a large percentage for these boys to have 5,6,7,8 brothers and sisters and ever one of 'em has a different daddy whose a also a thug or criminal type. You have adolescent males with no positive male role model to guide these impressionable young boys. Instead these boys are easily influenced by criminal type men and thug rap music that glorifies a criminal lifestyle. It's hip and cool to be a thug. It's hip and cool and manly to have a bunch of baby's with different mammas. It's hip and cool and manly to be babys daddy. It's just a whole messed up dysfunctional way of life. It's not just Indianapolis, it's any city that has a large segment of a certain population, like Detroit, Gary, St Louis, Cleveland, Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans, etc.. An entirely different culture than what most of us ever knew or even want to know. It's the reason why so many honest law abiding citizens took their kids out of the public schools and now the public schools is a cesspool. There's a reason why so many of the nicer respectful law abiding residents have fled these cities in droves for safer and greener pastures elsewhere. Nobody seems to want to talk about what the real problem is because they're afraid they're going to offend somebody. . Bill O'Reilly has been addressing it the past week on his program in a no nonsense way and I for one am glad to see somebody say what everybody already knows but won't talk publicly about.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by Virgil Steiner

I'll tell you exactly what the problem is, a large segment of the population is raised by single mama's and no daddy around. It's not unusual that a large percentage for these boys to have 5,6,7,8 brothers and sisters and ever one of 'em has a different daddy whose a also a thug or criminal type. You have adolescent males with no positive male role model to guide these impressionable young boys. Instead these boys are easily influenced by criminal type men and thug rap music that glorifies a criminal lifestyle. It's hip and cool to be a thug. It's hip and cool and manly to have a bunch of baby's with different mammas. It's hip and cool and manly to be babys daddy. It's just a whole messed up dysfunctional way of life. It's not just Indianapolis, it's any city that has a large segment of a certain population, like Detroit, Gary, St Louis, Cleveland, Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans, etc.. An entirely different culture than what most of us ever knew or even want to know. It's the reason why so many honest law abiding citizens took their kids out of the public schools and now the public schools is a cesspool. There's a reason why so many of the nicer respectful law abiding residents have fled these cities in droves for safer and greener pastures elsewhere. Nobody seems to want to talk about what the real problem is because they're afraid they're going to offend somebody. . Bill O'Reilly has been addressing it the past week on his program in a no nonsense way and I for one am glad to see somebody say what everybody already knows but won't talk publicly about.

What you and Bill O'Reilly fail to address is why the problem exists in the first place, and how to actually solve the problem. Saying that children need fathers is fine, but what exactly is your plan to fix it? Ban rap music, video games, movies, etc....? All of the conservative pundits like Bill O'Reilly have no realistic solutions.

Instead, all that conservative media hosts do is stir up racial animosity and hate. They don't actually want to solve the problems. They profit off of causing hate and controversy. If they don't have anybody to hate or look down upon, then what would their message be? Exactly, there wouldn't be one and they wouldn't have jobs.

[Virgil Steiner]

Originally Posted by wh15395

What you and Bill O'Reilly fail to address is why the problem exists in the first place, and how to actually solve the problem. Saying that children need fathers is fine, but what exactly is your plan to fix it? Ban rap music, video games, movies, etc....? All of the conservative pundits like Bill O'Reilly have no realistic solutions.

Instead, all that conservative media hosts do is stir up racial animosity and hate. They don't actually want to solve the problems. They profit off of causing hate and controversy. If they don't have anybody to hate or look down upon, then what would their message be? Exactly, there wouldn't be one and they wouldn't have jobs.

They are the only one who can solve that problem. It has to come from within there own community. They have the same rights and opportunities as everbody else in this country, and even more when you consider affirmative action. I feel like America has done everthing they can to try and right the wrongs that was done to that segment of the population. So many don't seem to want to help there selves.

Don Lemon is talking about this very subject right now on CNN. He's going a to address it in about 15 minutes. He said he agrees with Bill O'Reilly, only Bill O'Reilly didn't go far enough.

Being conservative has nothing to do with it. Liberal policies over the past 50 years certainly haven't helped very much.

[Dyadic]

Originally Posted by Virgil Steiner

They are the only one who can solve that problem. It has to come from within there own community. They have the same rights and opportunities as everbody else in this country, and even more when you consider affirmative action. I feel like America has done everthing they can to try and right the wrongs that was done to that segment of the population. So many don't seem to want to help there selves.

Don Lemon is talking about this very subject right now on CNN. He's going a to address it in about 15 minutes. He said he agrees with Bill O'Reilly, only Bill O'Reilly didn't go far enough.

Being conservative has nothing to do with it. Liberal policies over the past 50 years certainly haven't helped very much.

The African American family was intentionally destroyed for nearly 400 years and you act like affirmative action and a few social programs are enough to solved the problem. The issue is an institutional issue.

[Virgil Steiner]

Did you know that blacks commit violent crimes at 10 times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined? Is that the fault of white people? Are white people making blacks commit those crimes? Is it white people's fault that 72% of black babies are born out of wedlock? I do not believe for a minute that white people are forcing black women to have these babies out of wedlock with men who can't or won't support them.

If I understand you correctly, evertime a black commits a violent crime against another black, it's the white's fault. And it's the white peoples fault 72% of black babies are born out of wedlock.

Haven't you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you have, when do blacks start taking personal responsibility for their own actions and their own personal situation?

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by Virgil Steiner

Did you know that blacks commit violent crimes at 10 times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined? Is that the fault of white people? Are white people making blacks commit those crimes? Is it white people's fault that 72% of black babies are born out of wedlock? I do not believe for a minute that white people are forcing black women to have these babies out of wedlock with men who can't or won't support them.

If I understand you correctly, evertime a black commits a violent crime against another black, it's the white's fault. And it's the white peoples fault 72% of black babies are born out of wedlock.

Haven't you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you have, when do blacks start taking personal responsibility for their own actions and their own personal situation?

No, not every specific crime is a white person's fault, BUT white people have some responsibility for the poverty and crime that is seen in the black community today. You think that just because blacks have been able to vote and use the same bathrooms for the last 50 years that they're magically going to solve all of the problems that have been growing over centuries? If you do, you might want to consider sitting down and pondering the fact that historically speaking, 50 years is not very long.

Furthermore, as a whole, poor people commit significantly more crime than wealthy people do. Since the black community has been poor since this country has existed, you would expect to see a higher crime rate amongst the population. If they've only had an equal opportunity to get out of poverty for 50 years, do you once again really believe that enough time has passed to undo hundreds of years of discrimination?