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show me where i said you can only analyze them over 15 years ?
i never said that , what i said is you need to hold them at least 15 years to make sure you will stand a good chance of being up . that is the point in time where you never would have lost money in a broad diversified fund .
no go find where i ever said auch a thing as you can only analyze them over 15 years .
how about i if you can't find where i said that only 15 years can be analyzed , that you leave us alone in this form and stop making up what you want . ?
I'm not scrolling through 10 page threads to pull up all of your quotes. You said this a MILLION TIMES OVER and you know you said it!
You flip and flex your statement to try and win whatever argument you are in on that particular day. You are full of it MathJak and you know it lol.
you will never find me saying tht , because it isn't true . anyway you reached the ignore point so have a good life .
Dude I know what you said, I don't make up things on people. You state your position, I state my position, there's positives/negatives to both positions.
You want to bash my Long Term CDs all day because historically they don't beat Balanced Funds, you are right, they don't beat Balanced Funds. But there are positives to Long Term CDs such as being able to sleep at night, not having to deal with high levels of volatility, not having to pay any high mutual fund fees to get a net return of nearly the same as Long Term CDs once the fees come out.
Why do I have to be the same type of investor as you? I'm a Conservative Investor, why can't I just be who I am? Why MUST I be just like you because your Trinity Study (which you think is the Bible of Investing) said I must fall in line and do whatever it says?
the trinity study which obviously you have no clue even to what it is does not even come in to play until you are retired and are spending down .
it has zero to do with you now . you only reinforce the fact you are clueless about anything except what is in your head .
the trinity study which obviously you have no clue even to what it is does not even come in to play until you are retired and are spending down .
it has zero to do with you now . you only reinforce the fact you are clueless about anything except what is in your head .
bye
Sorry, I might have gotten the "names" of your particular study confused. But you know you live and breathe on white papers and studies for everything, and if someone DOES NOT align with that white paper or study in particular, you call them STUPID.
That is complete and utter nonsense MathJak. You aren't giving room for any difference of taste and style amongst Investors.
Some of us do not like Stocks, and you have no right to call us STUPID because we don't like them.
Some of us do not like Stocks, and you have no right to call us STUPID because we don't like them.
You are right about one thing: If investing in CDs is the only way you can sleep at night, you should invest in CDs. I don't think anyone has argued that. As long as you realize that your pot at the end of the rainbow is likely to be much less than it could be, and you're okay with that, so be it.
Where you get into trouble is when you bash stock investing in general and make ridiculous statements that clearly show your ignorance on the subject. It's one thing to be ignorant--we all were at one point--but when you argue to the death with people who are vastly more educated on the subject than yourself, that's when you begin to look...well..."stupid."
Where you get into trouble is when you bash stock investing in general and make ridiculous statements that clearly show your ignorance on the subject. It's one thing to be ignorant--we all were at one point--but when you argue to the death with people who are vastly more educated on the subject than yourself, that's when you begin to look...well..."stupid."
Okay, well then do me a favor? Take a quick view of the opinions of all of these people, including James Altucher who is my favorite, and tell me are these people "ignorant" too"?
James Altucher has been investing in stocks for years and has a solid net worth, but yet he feels the same way about Stocks that I do, so I guess he's ignorant as well?
There are legitimate arguments, although DEBATABLE, for some having concerns about stock market returns going forward, but that's not what I've been hearing from you.
There are legitimate arguments, although DEBATABLE, for some having concerns about stock market returns going forward, but that's not what I've been hearing from you.
I've been saying the exact same things that they have been saying. What have you been hearing from me that's different? If you care to elaborate that would be great...
First of all, I hadn't read your list of articles when I typed my previous post, but after quickly skimming the first one--which is full of UTTER NONSENSE--I certainly didn't mean to imply that the arguments made in those articles were necessarily "legitimate." Hopefully, the others are better than the first.
As to what I've heard YOU say, while it would be great fun to dig 'em all up and respond, I simply don't have time. But they've been along the lines of "investing in the stock market is a pure gamble," "stocks are just a piece of paper and don't represent ownership in the company," and on and on and on.
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