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Old 04-14-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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So now that we have determined that a table can be either have corners or no corners, does it have to be flat to be a table?

Has anyone come up with moderately risked 5% yield investment?
How about COFs?
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Depends on the table. Kitchen, dining, coffee, billiard, pub, or work table? And corner by definition is where 2 sides meet. Square edges make defining a corner easy, while rounded corners require careful measurement to define the actual corner.
Flat is defined as smooth and even. In my world, flat goes down to .0001. I could delve deeply into flatness, but I'm afraid I might lose my "table" people with that level of detail.
I left off picnic table on purpose so that I may be corrected
5% with moderate risk in 1 investment? Good luck. Mr. Trump and his erratic policy shifts have made everything risky these days.
Cheers!
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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While there may be no such thing as "no risk", I have invested in stuff like AT&T, Intel, Apple, Berkshire, etc and averaged 10.5% since 2003 in a total of 3 fairly large accounts.

A more passive account at Vanguard has made 5-6% during the same time period.

Sure, a nuke could blow up, the russians could take over or we could see another American Civil War. Meantime, all my friends who made MUCH more money than I did...and were scared of that stuff....ended up making 3-4%. In short, that means I have double as much money as they do and at 63 am still keeping the money in most of those equities.

The trains will continue to make money. Same with machine tools. Same with the proper set of Real Estate (you have to do some research there)....but Real Estate like nice hotels are on the upswing.

You take a big risk when you get in your car and drive to the store. IMHO, it's a smaller one to have a mix of stocks that are like utilities (AT&T, Apple, etc.) plus some high quality REITS and other carefully researched funds.
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Old 04-28-2017, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The lowest risk bond/stock allocation from 1970 to 2010 was 28% stocks / 72% bonds. Does this look "risky" to you? If not then invest in BND and SPY. Simple.
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Old 04-28-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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Why stop at 2010?

I have reservations about utilizing any web site that published that rediculous meaningless graph of a 15 year period showing a 4% draw which has failed so many existing time frames it can't be considered safe without a pay cut

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Old 04-29-2017, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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There will never be anything in life "risk free". Even Top economists don't agree on things. Studies of the past are general guidelines of possible future outcomes. Educated guesses, but in the end, guesses all the same.
Your question seems simple, but it's not. You could spend hours calculating different scenarios based on past results to find your best option only to find out in a year, it was really option B.
I find the subject of money fascinating. I read a lot and have a friend who manages trusts. The biggest thing I learned is to not get cute and overanalyze things. There are a number of risk categories. Which ones are you more concerned with? Investment timeframe? Investment risk? What events could cause your choice to be more volatile?
There is no one right answer for you. 5% is a pretty lofty goal and risk free is never an option. Good luck!
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Old 04-29-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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They want to get a minimum of 5% risk free return PLUS have the flexibility to cash out of an investment if they feel the market is turning.
invest in some russian bonds

they can cash out when the military starts taking the money

I don't get why your friend wants 5% as well as the ability to jump in and out of the investment at the same time? They could have market timed any investment and gotten 500%... if they timed it right
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