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Old 05-30-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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Also they've got two directors with media backgrounds but none with automotive.
Speaking of no automotive experience, none of the current executives have automotive experience any longer. Doug Field was the last one before his untimely "leave."
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Old 06-01-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Tesla's paint shop has caught fire four times, and apparently the sprinkler systems were clogged with paint (probably violating of fire code). Tesla tried to keep the most recent April fire hush-hush from the fire department, and shut down a week later with a statement to the media saying they were making "temporary improvements." Current employees are concerned about their health and indoor air quality and were told to go back to work immediately following the fire before any safety inspections were made. OSHA is going to have a field day with this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/tesl...d-workers.html

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"The fire happened just after the company's head of vehicle engineering, Doug Field, who is now on leave, sent out an e-mail rallying employees to "prove the haters wrong." In that spirit, and under management's direction, paint shop crews worked on.

The week of the fire, according to two employees and two other people familiar with Tesla's Fremont factory, CEO Elon Musk came down to assess damages to the paint shop. The fire had burnt an entire zone dedicated to painting Model 3s.

Rather than suspending operations immediately, Musk and others encouraged teams to fix what they could and push through.

Some Model 3 parts, including B-pillars and chassis components, that had been in the paint shop at the time of the fire were moved into containment, visually inspected and put back into production, rather than being scrapped or further tested for damages, employees said."
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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The wheels are coming off Tesla and Musk. I have long said this guy is way over rated as some kind of second coming of Christ. Tesla is set to collapse like a house of cards. Production, cash flow and debt are going to topple the company along with the fact that many of the big established car companies are making electric cars to compete. The stock price is held up by cult followers.
Please adjust your tin foil hat. It's on backwards.
All you need to do is look at the fact that in 8 years, tesla has gone from building 500 cars a year, to 120k+ cars a year and that trend is continuing
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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When my BMW 428i Gran Coupe outlives its warranty 2020, I will seriously consider the Model 3. Tesla is a great automaker. The stock ehhh, I have no strong opinion, but I love the company.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:22 AM
 
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Please adjust your tin foil hat. It's on backwards.
All you need to do is look at the fact that in 8 years, tesla has gone from building 500 cars a year, to 120k+ cars a year and that trend is continuing

Tesla has yet to produce 120,000 cars in a year. They produced about 100,000 in 2017 and 110,000 in year ended Q1 2018.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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Tesla has yet to produce 120,000 cars in a year. They produced about 100,000 in 2017 and 110,000 in year ended Q1 2018.
estimates vary...but you may be missing the bigger picture. call it 100k....not 120k.....
still a huge feat in just 8 years. Also, if you've experienced their cars first hand, you'd most likely change your mind.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/t...161200239.html

Luster fades.
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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That could be a problem. More than a third of Tesla's cash holdings were customer deposits for the Model 3 and other models, as of last quarter. And as Second Measure notes, Tesla right now is paying out refunds faster than new Model 3 deposits are being made — twice as many, the analytics company says, so far in 2018.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla...174800675.html


Well that’s not positive
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:40 PM
 
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Time to sell more flamethrowers and hats. Or start collecting Model Y reservations about 3 years early.

There was another article today about how Tesla has wasted $150 million on Model 3 parts that ended up being scrapped because of poor production processes and inadequate pre-production testing. $150 million for a normal automaker is about half the cost of a mid-cycle refresh.

Tesla Model 3 scrap high at Gigafactory - Business Insider

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A specific example for you: In February, a misprogrammed robot that handles battery modules repeatedly punctured through the plastic housing (called a clamshell) and into some battery cells, the employee said, adding that instead of scrapping all the modules, some were fixed with adhesive and put back on the manufacturing line. According to internal documents Business Insider reviewed, this foible affected more than 1,000 pieces.

A Tesla representative said that the incident affected far fewer parts and that none of the punctured ones were released back to the manufacturing process. But Business Insider reviewed an internal log that showed the parts were put into hundreds of vehicles. We sent Tesla an identification number for one of the cars, and the company would neither confirm nor deny that the piece was in a finished vehicle. It said only that if the piece were a safety concern, it would not be used.

In mid-April, thousands of bandoliers (a part used to create battery modules) were manufactured with an adhesive that was mixed incorrectly, according to the employee. Images shared with Business Insider show these parts sitting on the Gigafactory floor.
If this is representative of Tesla's quality control, I'd be staying far, far away.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Tesla's paint shop has caught fire four times, and apparently the sprinkler systems were clogged with paint (probably violating of fire code). Tesla tried to keep the most recent April fire hush-hush from the fire department, and shut down a week later with a statement to the media saying they were making "temporary improvements." Current employees are concerned about their health and indoor air quality and were told to go back to work immediately following the fire before any safety inspections were made. OSHA is going to have a field day with this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/tesl...d-workers.html
Spraying flammable (high VOC) paint in Kalifornia? Comrades that is impossible! Only water-based, fair trade, natural organic pigment paints are allowed.
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