Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-15-2022, 08:35 AM
 
116 posts, read 93,707 times
Reputation: 119

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
Let me know what models you are going to use ….

Right now I use the income model with my own version of a golden butterfly by using the permanent portfolio as a base with a bit of the 100% equity unique opportunity model which I am adding to as we fall bringing up the equity levels.

They do have suggestions as to how to use the models

Money for 1-5 years - income model

5-10 years growth and income model

10 years and longer , the growth model , unique opportunities, select sector models.

I don’t use the growth and income model nor do I restrict the income model to just 5 years …
I wasn’t sure since I’m like 20 yrs from retirement , I’m in that spot where I don’t have too much time to make gains in indexing while not having enough capital to just follow the income model.

The 2 buckets probably I was thinking is GB / income and other most aggressive like unique opportunities ( seems like that covers all sectors )

My biggest concern ( as an illinformed layman admittedly) is bonds being so heavy in income model will they get crushed with rising rates ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-15-2022, 08:41 AM
 
106,995 posts, read 109,264,794 times
Reputation: 80389
20 years out I used the growth model but the unique opportunity model is fine , it just wasn’t around .

That far out I only used 100% equities.

I saw no logic in mitigating temporary short term dips with less capable assets and permanently hurting long term returns
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2022, 11:22 PM
 
116 posts, read 93,707 times
Reputation: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
20 years out I used the growth model but the unique opportunity model is fine , it just wasn’t around .

That far out I only used 100% equities.

I saw no logic in mitigating temporary short term dips with less capable assets and permanently hurting long term returns
How did you not get distracted with short term declines and avoided panic in downturns when you were 15-20 yrs away from retirement?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2022, 01:22 AM
 
106,995 posts, read 109,264,794 times
Reputation: 80389
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageJoeShmo View Post
How did you not get distracted with short term declines and avoided panic in downturns when you were 15-20 yrs away from retirement?
Not everyone can do that .

We just didn’t look and also I had gotten divorced in the early 2000’s so everything was half so the dollars down were less
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2022, 08:20 AM
 
116 posts, read 93,707 times
Reputation: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
Not everyone can do that .

We just didn’t look and also I had gotten divorced in the early 2000’s so everything was half so the dollars down were less
Fmandi still recommends staying the course

I’m debating if I should cash out my VTI VTSAX and VOO and switch it over to their growth portfolio, or leave it as is since I’ll be selling them at a loss now
Or wait until I recover back to the price I bought in and then change to fmandi growth portfolio?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-02-2022, 12:19 AM
 
116 posts, read 93,707 times
Reputation: 119
Some more CDs are maturing , was debating whether to dump them in fmandi funds now or wait for a few months for market to bottom out
I know guilty as charged trying to time ….ugh the jitters
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-02-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Bellevue
3,078 posts, read 3,353,141 times
Reputation: 2934
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageJoeShmo View Post
Fmandi still recommends staying the course

I’m debating if I should cash out my VTI VTSAX and VOO and switch it over to their growth portfolio, or leave it as is since I’ll be selling them at a loss now
Or wait until I recover back to the price I bought in and then change to fmandi growth portfolio?
Sell at a loss now maybe get some tax benefit. Sell while the market is down & get something else while it is down. Who knows if VTI VTSAX and VOO will grow faster than your alternative.

Maybe set up diversified portfolio with 1/2 in old & 1/2 in new? Maybe in VTI, VTSAX, VOO you have too much of the same thing? Consider some real estate, bonds.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-02-2022, 01:24 PM
 
116 posts, read 93,707 times
Reputation: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by GWoodle View Post
Sell at a loss now maybe get some tax benefit. Sell while the market is down & get something else while it is down. Who knows if VTI VTSAX and VOO will grow faster than your alternative.

Maybe set up diversified portfolio with 1/2 in old & 1/2 in new? Maybe in VTI, VTSAX, VOO you have too much of the same thing? Consider some real estate, bonds.
How much tax benefit can you get in a year ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-02-2022, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Bellevue
3,078 posts, read 3,353,141 times
Reputation: 2934
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageJoeShmo View Post
How much tax benefit can you get in a year ?
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409

Link to Capital Gains tax. If you sell at a loss may have Capital Gain Loss. May deduct this loss from your other income. If the Loss is large enough carryover into the next year.

Capital Gain has different rates depending if it is Short Term or Long Term. Short term for items owned less than 1 year.

Forms are for 2021 filed in 2022. May have to hunt for new forms for 2022/2023.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top