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Old 05-24-2023, 11:49 AM
 
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I just bought a regional bank ETF due to them being cut in half as a sector. My view is that a year or two from now I could double my money if they recover. Or if I buy the 3X etf it would certainly double. I think most of the bad news has been baked in. If you don't think the worst is over, what total percentage do you think the ETF will fall?
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:55 AM
 
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i prefer to buy berkshire and let ole buffet find those bank stocks with his expertise
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:19 PM
 
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i prefer to buy berkshire and let ole buffet find those bank stocks with his expertise
Berkshire is the safe low risk low return route. You don't buy regionals for low risk low return though. Totally different strategy.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:22 PM
 
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Commercial real estate is a big shoe still to drop and the regionals are set to take that on the chin. Hence why pac west just sold some of those loans off at a discount to improve cap ratios
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:24 PM
 
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Berkshire is the safe low risk low return route. You don't buy regionals for low risk low return though. Totally different strategy.
i don’t know about low risk anymore …it has been more volatile then my total market fund.

i think the holdings he has in very volatile sectors has increased volatility quite a bit .

i was surprised to see it fall more then my total market fund since i bought it
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:59 PM
 
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Commercial real estate is a big shoe still to drop and the regionals are set to take that on the chin. Hence why pac west just sold some of those loans off at a discount to improve cap ratios
I feel like this has already been priced in though since it is widely known.
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Old 05-24-2023, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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I think you're right about regionals recovering in 1-2 years, but recovery or not, I'm actually transitioning away from investing in banks. I'm long BAC and I like a lot of the others, banks like JPM, USB, and EWBC, and a small, local RI bank WASH, but I'm getting tired of the roller coaster bank ride every time you get a hiccup in the economy. Will they stop buybacks, freeze dividends, etc. I'm going to keep my BAC, but will avoid banks going forward unless they get like 2008 cheap and I can come in and bottom feed.
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Old 05-24-2023, 03:06 PM
 
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I have taken it on the chin with a few smaller banks and a few larger financials; however, I'm sticking with them and feel as though they will recover and then some in the next 5-10 years so I'm not worried. I have actually added to a few financials that are down (TROW, PFG).
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Old 05-24-2023, 03:58 PM
 
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I have taken it on the chin with a few smaller banks and a few larger financials; however, I'm sticking with them and feel as though they will recover and then some in the next 5-10 years so I'm not worried. I have actually added to a few financials that are down (TROW, PFG).
5-10 years seems like a long time just to recover.
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Old 05-24-2023, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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5-10 years seems like a long time just to recover.
“will recover and then some in the next 5-10 years”. And then some. 5-10 years is not a long time to a long term investor.

I bought BAC during the GFC, and even with the recent pullback, I’m still up 330% and getting a 10% plus dividend yield on cost. I’ve trimmed the position a bit recently to pay for a daughters college tuition, but it’s still a very profitable position.

If you can stand the volatility inherent in financials, now is a good time to buy solid companies.
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