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Old 03-02-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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Sorry but you misunderstood the question. I asked how do YOU know Allah exist. I didn't ask what the Koran says or what any book or person says. I want to know how you personally know Allah exists.....if you don't mind.

Yes, my dear brother
I understand what you feels like
I want you to look at your body
Who is the creator?
Where did you came?

Why do humans die?

Who controls the human spirit?

Who created the sun and the moon?

For me this is evidence of faith

These things have to be a creator of her
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

There are many many verses condemning disbelievers to eternal torture among other things, but I suppose many Christians believe that disbelievers end up in hell as well.
you apparently doesn't know the circumstances in which such verses were revealed ? this verse addressed Muslims how to deal with people of Makkah 1419 years ago since the latter broke the treaty with Muslims at that time by killing some Muslims' supporters ! nearly after the conquer of Makkah other verse was revealed down which is " there is no compulsion in religion " chapter 2 verse 256!

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Old 03-02-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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What do you think should happen to people that produce images of Mohammed?
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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What would be a hybrid of Islam and Christianity look like?

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Old 03-02-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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How old is the earth? Also, could new species have formed long after its original creation, or the creation of earth's original organisms?
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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What do you think should happen to people that produce images of Mohammed?

Yes
It ought to punish any person who speaks bad verbal or picture the Holy Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Because it is from allah
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
(34) Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Talk about the extent of the limits of God, and put Sharia means the process of criminal crucial during her talk about the limits of Allah Almighty, as in this verse, in order to maintain security and prevent the evil souls of the rush away from Noazaaha own deviant, which pushes toward killing and looting, banditry and scheming of Islam and Muslims, and spread chaos and destruction, and corruption in the lives of the people, and so on ... To clarify the issue for the punishment of Allah and His Messenger
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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What would be a hybrid of Islam and Christianity look like?

God created man on the ground
To the reconstruction of the ground and walk on the straight path

Man is always in the test between good and evil
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(4) We have certainly created man into hardship
But the man loves women, money, children, and gold ... Etc.

Therefore, trying to walk in the way and I'm moving away from the Sacred
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(14) Beautified for people is the love of that which they desire - of women and sons, heaped-up sums of gold and silver, fine branded horses, and cattle and tilled land. That is the enjoyment of worldly life, but Allah has with Him the best return.
But
In heaven in the afterlife to find what he wishes all human
Because Heaven reward for patience from sins and evil deeds in this world
God says in the Holy Qur'an

(15) Say, "Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and purified spouses and approval from Allah. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants -

The Christian is now located
unfortunately distorted
Because Christianity and Islam, the true source of divine and one
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(157) Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful


Torah and the Gospels and the Psalms, and the Holy Qur'an
Wrote celestial source and one which is(ALLAH)
Ordered the deployment of the prophets of God and conveying the message to the people
Therefore, the rights to choose the way of God and the prophets and holy books, which contain the teachings of the divine
Or walk and follow the path of the devil and death

This is it simply
Holy Qur'an is the natural extension of the Torah and the Gospel
But unfortunately
Torah and the Gospel was distortion
So people say completely different

God says in the Holy Qur'an

136. Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)."

285. .The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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How old is the earth? Also, could new species have formed long after its original creation, or the creation of earth's original organisms?
My dear brother



Quranic signal to determine the age of the universe

this mentioned the Qur'an in many verses that God created the universe in six Ian, as in His saying: "(38) And We did certainly create the heavens and earth and what is between them in six days, and there touched Us no weariness" Qaf. 38.

As for the day is meant by stages or periods of time to create the universe and not the days that we prepare we humans evidence is the absence of the phrase "of those which you count" in all the verses that talk about the six days of creation as in the verse: "(7) And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - "Hood 7.

"(4) It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them in six days; then He established Himself above the Throne. You have not besides Him any protector or any intercessor; so will you not be reminded
(5) He arranges [each] matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count "Sajdah 4 5.

And here we note that today in Sajdah verse (4) represents the stage of creation, but today in verse (5) is that we prepare our signs of when the sun rises every day and the question now is what are these days, or six stages and how they can be divided Konya? .
Science and estimated age of the universe 10 to 20 billion years old.
Quranic reference:
He says: "9. Say (O Muhammad):" Do you verily disbelieve in Him Who created the earth in two Days and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? That is the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
10. He placed therein (ie the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it, and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers) in four Days equal (ie all these four 'days' were equal in the length of time), for all those who ask (about its creation).
11. Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly."
12. Then He completed and finished from their creation (as) seven heavens in two Days and He made in each heaven its affair. And We adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as to guard (from the devils by using them as missiles against the devils). Such is the Decree of Him the All-Mighty, the All-Knower.
"Separated 9 12

According to these verses, the six days of creation as a whole commentators were divided into three equal sections each section is equivalent to two days of the creation of the concept of relative time.
First: two days to create the earth from the sky, smoke first (created the earth in two days) and the Almighty says ((30) Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing ? Then will they not believe?) Prophets 30.

Second, two days to settle the seven heavens:
"11. Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the heaven when it was smoke" and this case refers to the smoke to the sky after the explosion, the great cosmic days the heavens where he began a Vqdahn seven heavens in two days.
Third, two days to measure the earth geology and harnessed to man: He says: "(10) And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface," which refers to the mountains of meteorites fell and stabilized at the outset on the earth's crust as soon as intransigence fact that he said "over its surface ".

"Sustenance and blessing to the" no amount livelihoods of its people.
"In four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask" any fully four full days equal no more and no decrease of asking people for the duration of created and what is already there and see all the commentators that these four days include the day created the earth and measure on its geological and clear from the foregoing:
Equal to 1 days time, otherwise you might not have been collected and divided into three equal stages.
2 Geological measure of the land until the arrival of questioners (human) took two days of the six days of creation which took third age of the universe.
And where to measure the Earth's geology since the start of hardening of the earth's crust, and even the appearance of man has taken place of 4.5 billion years according to a study if the age of the Earth
Age of the universe = 4.5 * 3 = 13.5 billion a year and this number is close to the findings of the U.S. space agency NASA and recently using the space shuttle provider very sophisticated sensors to study the universe where the estimated age of the universe to 13.7 billion years
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:20 PM
 
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Yes
It ought to punish any person who speaks bad verbal or picture the Holy Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Because it is from allah
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
(34) Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Talk about the extent of the limits of God, and put Sharia means the process of criminal crucial during her talk about the limits of Allah Almighty, as in this verse, in order to maintain security and prevent the evil souls of the rush away from Noazaaha own deviant, which pushes toward killing and looting, banditry and scheming of Islam and Muslims, and spread chaos and destruction, and corruption in the lives of the people, and so on ... To clarify the issue for the punishment of Allah and His Messenger
That's harsh. I think that sort of attitude is archaic.

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Old 03-04-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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That's harsh. I think that sort of attitude is archaic.
no, my dear brother
you remember

Story of Ka'b bin Zuhair with the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

One poets who spoke bad words from the Prophet

So the Prophet ordered his murder

But

Messenger of Allah, it does not kill anyone came to him repentant Muslim

for that
Ka'b ibn Zuhair apologize of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
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