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Old 09-20-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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And please, ISIS fostered negative views, but was all OK until it started attacking them, and only then, over a year since it's rampage, and the negative publicity it generated.
ISIS kind of snuck in the back Door. They began as unknowns in Syria and had US support as they were fighting the al-Qaida backed Rebels that were trying to over throw Assad.

It was not until they entered Iraq the press started noticing them as then they became a possible threat to the US

Now it is known they are a threat to everybody
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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There is no "Savior" that is a Christian concept. What we get is of our own actions, thoughts and choices. No one is going to come riding out of heaven on a white horse to save us. That only happens in old western movies and Christian ideology. We alone are responsible for what we get. It is our responsiblity to ask Allaah(swt) to forgive us. It is our own responsibility do our best to serve Allaah(swt) while we are alive. What we get is the result of our own interaction with Allaah(swt)
When you say we alone are responsible, this is failed logic. It is in contradiction to the nature around us.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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The MOST powerful of gods would be one that can REMOVE evil from those that possess it. For there is no purpose in eternal torment. Eternal torment is a vain doctrine. Darkness is displaced by Light. Fear and Hate is displaced by Love and Evil is displaced by Righteousness and Death is displaced by Life.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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The MOST powerful of gods would be one that can REMOVE evil from those that possess it. For there is no purpose in eternal torment. Eternal torment is a vain doctrine. Darkness is displaced by Light. Fear and Hate is displaced by Love and Evil is displaced by Righteousness and Death is displaced by Life.
There is just one God(swt), the very same God(swt) is worshiped by all adherents of the Abrahamic faiths, possibly others.

It is only some Christians that view differently.

We do disagree over the nature of Jesus(as) but we do agree The God(swt) worshiped by all the Prophets is the same one.

Allaah(swt) has sent the words that can remove Evil. They are found in the Torah, Psalms, Gospel of Jesus and the Qur'an. But many human's ignore them. It is Human choice and some choose to defy Allaah(swt)

Muslims do not believe in the existence of death for humans. We are created eternal and it is our choice as to how we will spend eternity.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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There is just one God(swt), the very same God(swt) is worshiped by all adherents of the Abrahamic faiths, possibly others.

It is only some Christians that view differently.

We do disagree over the nature of Jesus(as) but we do agree The God(swt) worshiped by all the Prophets is the same one.

Allaah(swt) has sent the words that can remove Evil. They are found in the Torah, Psalms, Gospel of Jesus and the Qur'an. But many human's ignore them. It is Human choice and some choose to defy Allaah(swt)

Muslims do not believe in the existence of death for humans. We are created eternal and it is our choice as to how we will spend eternity.


The muslim God and the Christian god are two completely different dieties, with two completely different sets of ideals.

The only people who can claim they are the same, are people who know nothing of at least one of those religions.

Or someone who is intentionally lying about it.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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There is just one God(swt), the very same God(swt) is worshiped by all adherents of the Abrahamic faiths, possibly others.

It is only some Christians that view differently.

We do disagree over the nature of Jesus(as) but we do agree The God(swt) worshiped by all the Prophets is the same one.

Allaah(swt) has sent the words that can remove Evil. They are found in the Torah, Psalms, Gospel of Jesus and the Qur'an. But many human's ignore them. It is Human choice and some choose to defy Allaah(swt)

Muslims do not believe in the existence of death for humans. We are created eternal and it is our choice as to how we will spend eternity.
Not the same God. the God of Christianity requires to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth and says that He will have all men to be saved from their sins.

The God of Christianity does not need our permission to remove evil from us.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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Not the same God. the God of Christianity requires to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth and says that He will have all men to be saved from their sins.

The God of Christianity does not need our permission to remove evil from us.
Like I said some Christians do not believe we all worship the same God(swt)
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Like I said some Christians do not believe we all worship the same God(swt)
any Christian who studies Islam, will confirm they are not the same god.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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any Christian who studies Islam, will confirm they are not the same god.
Just for beginners over 1/2 the world's Christians are Roman Catholic. The Catholic Church acknowledges Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God.

About the only ones who disagree are American fundementalists
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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Not the same God. the God of Christianity requires to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth and says that He will have all men to be saved from their sins.

The God of Christianity does not need our permission to remove evil from us.

The true and correct teaching of prophet Jesus peace be upon was change and corrupted by Saul of Tarsus
the Christians are following Saul of Tarsus not Jesus

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse.
" They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who will refuse?"
He said, "Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise,
and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it)."
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