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Old 07-28-2016, 03:17 AM
 
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Here is a list of words with the highest frequency >250 times in the Quran listing from highest to lowest.

Word No.
and 9240
the 7656
you 4570
of 4501
is 3501
to 3464
they 2976
allah 2973
will 2374
them 2343
a 2247
not 2191
in 2153
he 2049
for 1977
who 1924
that 1886
we 1860
it 1748
have 1563
indeed 1498
are 1454
from 1443
those 1392
be 1261
him 1142
their 1133
but 1102
your 1097
do 1083
what 1075
with 1071
lord 971
so 959
his 915
then 900
when 835
said 821
if 809
has 801

Can we obtain any information from the above number of times each word appears to interpret the Quran?

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Old 07-28-2016, 03:22 AM
 
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List 250 to 700

say 766
which 737
people 732
i 666
or 635
upon 627
o 624
as 583
were 568
by 518
day 497
there 495
my 481
among 473
except 473
was 464
us 463
would 458
our 451
me 426
had 421
one 410
no 403
earth 402
this 394
on 376
all 370
punishment 350
before 327
been 311
good 310
made 293
an 292
whom 289
whoever 284
fear 281
over 271
know 266
Muhammad 264 [?]
while 264
believed 262
believe 256
should 255
come 254
did 254

Quran Analysis | Word Frequency
Analysis is based on the Shahih International Quran

I think the above need further analysis because Muhammad = 264 seem odd, perhaps it is in () not the actual word in the Quran itself.

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Old 07-28-2016, 03:35 AM
 
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Note the number of times 'believe' is used in comparison to 'submit' which is supposedly to be central to Islam.

believed 262
believe 256


submission 21
submissive 5
submit 14
submits 3
submitted 7
submitting 7

Note this OP I raised
'Believe' Stronger than 'Submit'?
'Believe is Stronger than 'Submit'
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:47 AM
 
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Note the number of times 'believe' is used in comparison to 'submit' which is supposedly to be central to Islam.

believed 262
believe 256


submission 21
submissive 5
submit 14
submits 3
submitted 7
submitting 7

Note this OP I raised
'Believe' Stronger than 'Submit'?
'Believe is Stronger than 'Submit'
As I have been trying for so long to explain to you, "believe" is central to Islam (prerequisite) than "submit". There is no "submit" without "believe".
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:52 AM
 
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List 250 to 700

say 766
which 737
people 732
i 666
or 635
upon 627
o 624
as 583
were 568
by 518
day 497
there 495
my 481
among 473
except 473
was 464
us 463
would 458
our 451
me 426
had 421
one 410
no 403
earth 402
this 394
on 376
all 370
punishment 350
before 327
been 311
good 310
made 293
an 292
whom 289
whoever 284
fear 281
over 271
know 266
Muhammad 264 [?]
while 264
believed 262
believe 256
should 255
come 254
did 254

Quran Analysis | Word Frequency
Analysis is based on the Shahih International Quran

I think the above need further analysis because Muhammad = 264 seem odd, perhaps it is in () not the actual word in the Quran itself.
Muhammad is actually mentioned only 4 times in the Qur'an (3:144), (33:40), (47:2), and (48:29).
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:54 AM
 
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The following elements and high number of frequencies do
support why and how the evil prone Muslims are driven to commit terrible evils and violence.

From the statistics above:
-DAY 497
-punishment 350
-fear 281

In my detailed analysis I recorded 1,968 verses that are related to Judgment Day which cover words like Hour, the Trumpet blown, etc.

From the above we can infer, in Islam what is critical to Muslims are their focus on eternal life [immortality] in Paradise and avoiding going to Hell to be burnt eternally. This is supported by the elements 'punishments' and 'fear'.

To be ensured of eternal life in Paradise and avoiding Hell, Muslims strive at all cost to comply with Allah words in the Quran to please Allah and gain his favor.

I have an analysis where >3,500 verses contain evil laden elements of various degrees from low to very high.

While the 80% of good Muslims will be blinded or ignored the evil laden verses, the 20% of evil prone Muslims will comply with the evil laden elements to do their duty as 'good' Muslims to please Allah. This is how the terrible evils and violence emerge out of SOME Muslims in the name of Islam and Muhammad.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:11 AM
 
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Here is a list of words with the highest frequency >250 times in the Quran listing from highest to lowest.

Word No.
and 9240
the 7656
you 4570
of 4501
is 3501
to 3464
they 2976
allah 2973
will 2374
them 2343
a 2247
not 2191
in 2153
he 2049
for 1977
who 1924
that 1886
we 1860
it 1748
have 1563
indeed 1498
are 1454
from 1443
those 1392
be 1261
him 1142
their 1133
but 1102
your 1097
do 1083
what 1075
with 1071
lord 971
so 959
his 915
then 900
when 835
said 821
if 809
has 801

Can we obtain any information from the above number of times each word appears to interpret the Quran?
Please not that "and" ("wa") in the Arabic Qur'an does not always mean that it is between two different things. For example, "and" between "earth" and "sky" means the two are not the same thing. But in many situations "and" ("wa") means the two are the same thing. For example, "book and wisdom"; "wisdom" is in the "book" and, therefore, it is the mention of the same thing. The same applies to the "and" in "Obey Allah and obey the messenger". It does not mean "obeying the messenger" separately from "obeying Allah". Both are obeyed together in one go. The term "obey Allah and obey the messenger" is one term despite an "and" in between. This "and" in Arabic is often used to connect the two to make something into one term rather than to separate the two to make into two terms.

This is where a deeper study of the Qur'an is very useful in understanding it if one needs to debate about this book.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Continuum View Post
The following elements and high number of frequencies do
support why and how the evil prone Muslims are driven to commit terrible evils and violence.

From the statistics above:
-DAY 497
-punishment 350
-fear 281

In my detailed analysis I recorded 1,968 verses that are related to Judgment Day which cover words like Hour, the Trumpet blown, etc.

From the above we can infer, in Islam what is critical to Muslims are their focus on eternal life [immortality] in Paradise and avoiding going to Hell to be burnt eternally. This is supported by the elements 'punishments' and 'fear'.

To be ensured of eternal life in Paradise and avoiding Hell, Muslims strive at all cost to comply with Allah words in the Quran to please Allah and gain his favor.

I have an analysis where >3,500 verses contain evil laden elements of various degrees from low to very high.

While the 80% of good Muslims will be blinded or ignored the evil laden verses, the 20% of evil prone Muslims will comply with the evil laden elements to do their duty as 'good' Muslims to please Allah. This is how the terrible evils and violence emerge out of SOME Muslims in the name of Islam and Muhammad.
Your analysis will make no sense unless you are saying that 80% of Muslims are not pleasing Allah by not complying with the "evil laden elements" in the Qur'an as is their duty and, therefore, are going to hell.

Your argument stinks as it effectively condemns 80% (your figure) of Muslims to hell.
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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Here is a list of words with the highest frequency >250 times in the Quran listing from highest to lowest.

Word No.
and 9240
the 7656
you 4570
of 4501
is 3501
to 3464
they 2976
allah 2973
will 2374
them 2343
a 2247
not 2191
in 2153
he 2049
for 1977
who 1924
that 1886
we 1860
it 1748
have 1563
indeed 1498
are 1454
from 1443
those 1392
be 1261
him 1142
their 1133
but 1102
your 1097
do 1083
what 1075
with 1071
lord 971
so 959
his 915
then 900
when 835
said 821
if 809
has 801

Can we obtain any information from the above number of times each word appears to interpret the Quran?
If you are using translations you will find the numbers will differ, depending on the translation.

For example using the word believed:

9 times in Asad

54 times in Yusuf Ali

101 times in Pickthall

262 times in the "Sahih International"
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:27 PM
 
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If you are using translations you will find the numbers will differ, depending on the translation.

For example using the word believed:

9 times in Asad

54 times in Yusuf Ali

101 times in Pickthall

262 times in the "Sahih International"
Agree.
As I had mentioned in post #2 the results from this source need further analysis.

I checked from another source,

The word(s) "believe" [in all words] appears 1193 time(s) in 965 verse(s) in Quran in Saheeh International translation. Believing appears 66 times.

The word(s) "believe" appears 855 time(s) in 711 verse(s) in Quran in Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation.
Your search using "believed" i.e. past tense is misleading as what is critical is the main word.

I better do my own analysis instead of relying on the above source.
I have done my analysis based on concepts rather than merely 'words'.
As I have mentioned there are more than 3,500 verses that reflect the concept of 'us versus them" [us=good, them=evil/bad] in the Quran which various degrees of contempt [abhorrence] against the "them" i.e. the non-Muslims.

My point is counting the number times a word is used, do give some implications to the central message of the Quran.

I am sure the term "believe" as appearing in any tense or verb [e.g. believed, believing, etc,] will appear more than 9 times in Asad. Do that search again in Asad's using only 'believe' not merely believed [past tense] and also "believing".
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