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Old 08-13-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by hnsq View Post
You could definitely be fired for it. Next time, instead of lying prove to them that you are worth a higher salary. The only people who say that you have to lie to get a higher salary are the people who can't prove they are worth it.
I have to agree with hnsq.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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to the OP, well, hopefully your former employers aren't asked about your salary, they won't answer the question, or the background check is never compared to your interview answer. this is a risk you take when you lie. i understand why people do it, because it's really stupid and unfair for employers to base the pay they're offering on your previous pay. but if you choose to do it, you have to accept the potential consequences. and keep in mind, not every company does this. there are plenty that offer fair market rate for your labor without taking into consideration what you made before.

sure, you can say they misheard you in the interview but they have no obligation to believe you and it might make you look even shadier. but you don't have much to lose at that point so if you're found out i guess you can either go for that or brutal honesty and see what happens.
If the person he said it to wrote it down, he should hope that person has VERY bad handwriting ... that s/he cannot even read it.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Please cite applicable state or federal law backing up your point. I will be patient while you spend a lot of time googling.

You will come up empty, as there is no such law.
True. I don't know where people get such ideas.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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All they care about is whether or not you have any major criminal convictions/warrants and whether your education and work history are correct in terms of where and when you worked and what degrees you have. I seriously doubt they will check salary at this point. Do NOT open up a can of worms with your new employer. Keep your mouth shut.
I agree; at this point he should be quiet and wait. Better not to bring it up beforehand and get them suspicious. Maybe it will not be asked of his last employer after all.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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IRS form 4506-T. Once they ask you to sign one of those, you are in trouble. If they don't, you probably will not have any issues.
Form 4506-T authorizes the IRS to release your last four years of tax returns, including W-2s, 1099s, 1098s, and 5489s, to a third party. They can release up to 10 years' worth of W-2s and 1099s.
I've never heard of a private sector employer using that form. I have heard cases where they have requeted a W-2 or payroll stub.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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IRS form 4506-T. Once they ask you to sign one of those, you are in trouble. If they don't, you probably will not have any issues.
Form 4506-T authorizes the IRS to release your last four years of tax returns, including W-2s, 1099s, 1098s, and 5489s, to a third party. They can release up to 10 years' worth of W-2s and 1099s.
or... they could ask your former employer(s). or ask you for your w2 or your most recent pay advice. they don't have to pull your tax records to verify your pay.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Your salary is confidential information. The former employer opens themselves to a whole world of liability if they disclose this information. Unless they are complete knuckleheads, they won't do it.

You are fine. What did we learn?
Totally wrong. These days, compensation is one of the FEW things former employers will say about a former employee. My employer has the following policy. They will only say:

Last job title, dates of employment, last compensation.

That is pretty typical of large companies these days and they are doing it to protect themselves from liability. Liability comes in when a company expresses a negative opinion of the employee.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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We all lie about what we were making when applying for a new job, that is how we get a raise. I don't think I have ever told the real salary in my life and it has never come back on me. Besides, past employers are afraid to say much any more for fear of legal problems........don't sweat it.

Don
Well working at mom and pops feed store type places in Podunk I guess you don't have to worry about it. Big employers who have all their teeth is a different ball game.

And no, employers do not have to be afraid to tell what the compensation was. Why all this misinformation on that? That's one of the few things they can say actually.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Most employers will not release salary information.
And what are your 'sources' to make such a statement? Everything I know is the exact opposite.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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also, like, when you sign an agreement to a background check, you are usually agreeing to a credit check, criminal record check, etc. and people think that your salary history, which you've already been asked for and disclosed, is so sacred? get real. employers can and do ask for and reveal that information. if they can't get the information from former employers, they may ask you for w2s. if they care enough, and some places do as silly as that is, they'll get that information or your offer will be taken back.

no employer is going to get sued for revealing an employee's salary as long as they're truthful about it, and it's not like we're talking about something subjective here. either they're truthful or they're not, it's easy enough to prove.
Similar request actually happened to me once on a job. I was hired, got the offer letter, etc., etc. Before the first day, I got an email saying what to bring the first day (driver's license, SS card, etc.). They also wanted me to bring my last paystub from my last job. If I had lied about my salary, I would have been caught.
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