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Old 02-22-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Yes, you should lie about everything...background, past jobs, criminal history, name, education, etc. Secret to success!
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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After all the ugly behavior from employers that I've experienced, hits the news, and gets posted on the forum daily I'd say employment has become a war with no rules. I'd feel no compunction about lying in an interview, inflating my salary history, and using fake jobs and references.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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If no one asked, it isn't a lie. And if someone asked about pregnancy or religion, they were inviting a lawsuit.

Not volunteering information is NOT the same thing as lying. And I'm speaking from an employer's perspective.
True.

You shouldn't lie because very often the truth will come out and then you will be discredited. Then you wonder why no one ever believes a word you say or if something is missing, you're the first one suspected.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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In general, I believe honesty is best policy.

On major exception: You are searching for a new job.. lie even if employer suspects you and confronts you with "are you looking elsewhere?"

Also, don't volunteer information unless being pressed to or if it's to your advantage.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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A lot of applicants do not realize that employers can spot lies, asking questions different ways, etc. Asking questions that the applicant hates. And by running checks on the employee. It is a lot easier to find out the information, than just interviewing the potential employee.

People lie. Then they wonder why they don't get jobs they apply for.

If you lie, and your employer finds out later, that is grounds to fire you.

Think about it. I have hired hundreds of people back in my corporate life, and have seen people telling lies are very often found out easily, and are rejected as employees.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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Yes, you should lie about everything...background, past jobs, criminal history, name, education, etc. Secret to success!
Exactly, just like that sort of stuff is what CEO's and billionaires are made of. Owners, administrators, CEO's, and all the other fancily titled people generally are abusive, deceptive, careless, and coldblooded, so I see no reason to be truthful all the time.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Not worth it. You always get caught.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: southern california
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False application? Sop u r fired
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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White lies are fine such as only talking about the positives of past jobs with hostile environments (unless managers are drinking buddies or in the same circle, you SHOULD be clear.) However if it is I've never stolen yet you have a conviction for stealing, then you are screwed.

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I see what you're doing but that has nothing to do with maternity leave in nine months (which my boss isn't fond of so soon, but I don't see a problem with) or taking religious holidays without exception, with one of them occurring every week for Orthodox Jews, Shabbat.
You can always try to work around it. Say you have Catholic workers, some may do early morning mass on Saturday, some do late morning mass on Sunday, some do evening mass on Sunday, and others do Saturday evening. It's not like their church has a one mass offering and that's all.

As for pregnancy, that is a different issue that you cannot pass up in the hiring process just for that no matter the reason (cost of benefits, absenteeism, ect.) and it would have to be a legitimate reason that dismisses her, say she answered a different legal question in a way that isn't a fit for our company while the other applicant didn't.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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As for pregnancy, that is a different issue that you cannot pass up in the hiring process just for that no matter the reason (cost of benefits, absenteeism, ect.) and it would have to be a legitimate reason that dismisses her, say she answered a different legal question in a way that isn't a fit for our company while the other applicant didn't.
Correct! My boss wasn't fond of her omitting it during the interview. I was fine with it.

I have had people lie for me in the positions I've held and salary and I don't list all the jobs I've had.
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