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Old 01-27-2015, 04:55 AM
 
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I can't answer that for you.
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Then wait for theflipflop and iwishiwerethin to respond as they are our resident UOs.
To both of you, what are your personal opinions on the below?

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But does this really mean that if I do not find a Jewish partner, it is better to spend my life alone? Even if I found someone gentile who I love and who would want a Jewish household?
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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To both of you, what are your personal opinions on the below?
Let me put it this way: If I were to find myself single, I would only involve myself with a woman in my community or one already in the process of converting. I believe that having a united Jewish household is extremely important for us as a family and as a people.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:06 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Let me put it this way: If I were to find myself single, I would only involve myself with a woman in my community or one already in the process of converting. I believe that having a united Jewish household is extremely important for us as a family and as a people.
I agree.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:08 AM
 
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Let me put it this way: If I were to find myself single, I would only involve myself with a woman in my community or one already in the process of converting. I believe that having a united Jewish household is extremely important for us as a family and as a people.
Normally I would agree to that, but being over 30, having been single for 5 years and now realizing I may not find a Jewish partner, it makes me considerate other options.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:12 AM
 
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Isn't it better to do my best at raising my children jewish although with a partner who is not jewish but identifies to a large extent with judaism than to not marry at all?
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:19 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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If this were the relationship forum, I would say to look at your list of what you want and cut it down to the most important item. Relations have a foundation, the rest can be built and rebuilt as time goes forward. What is now most likely will not be the same as now.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:31 AM
 
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If this were the relationship forum, I would say to look at your list of what you want and cut it down to the most important item. Relations have a foundation, the rest can be built and rebuilt as time goes forward. What is now most likely will not be the same as now.
Thanks!
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:56 AM
 
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Isn't it better to do my best at raising my children jewish although with a partner who is not jewish but identifies to a large extent with judaism than to not marry at all?
Emotionally probably, but Orthodox Judaism does not recognize marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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From what you've described he basically falls into the category of being a Messianic Jew or a Reform Jew (even though he's not).
This is completely insulting that you would compare a Messianic Jew to the Reform Judaism movement.

You may not like Reform Judaisms changes, but they have never left believing in the Shema, something that Messianic Judaism obviously does (Trinitarianism). Reform Judaism is not another stream of Christianity, like Messy Judaism.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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This is completely insulting that you would compare a Messianic Jew to the Reform Judaism movement.

You may not like Reform Judaisms changes, but they have never left believing in the Shema, something that Messianic Judaism obviously does (Trinitarianism). Reform Judaism is not another stream of Christianity, like Messy Judaism.
No, I've met numerous Messianic Jews. For the most part they are Jewish and follow cultural Judaism. They just add in JC to their belief systems. Messianic Judaism is "not" a one mold fits all category. As to Reform Jews (again by the ones I've met and not some perception based on some article), they are Jews in name but have thrown out most of 613 mitzvot as not relevant. Thus by my personal experience, I can set my opinions on what I've seen rather than what I read.
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