KC's largest private company may be moving to KCK (Kansas City: 2015, how much)

[PA650]

In the tradition of our informative poster, KCMO.

KC's largest private company may be moving to KCK - Kansas City Business Journal

The DFA news is also of interest because of the significant state incentives the company could be granted, continuing the economic development border war skirmishes between Kansas and Missouri for Kansas City-area companies.

As a transplant, I am still amazed by this never ending cycle.

[brooksider2brooklyn]

This is the main reason Kansas City will never again be a great American city. That metropolitan area (if you can even call it that) has slowly taken itself off the national map by dismantling the core city to prop up the suburbs at a time when cities across the country are doing the exact opposite.

Good luck kc, but if you keep this up, soon your metro will be a fourth tier city with little economic growth and it will be totally unattractive to new residents and companies to the area.

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by brooksider2brooklyn

This is the main reason Kansas City will never again be a great American city. That metropolitan area (if you can even call it that) has slowly taken itself off the national map by dismantling the core city to prop up the suburbs at a time when cities across the country are doing the exact opposite.

Good luck kc, but if you keep this up, soon your metro will be a fourth tier city with little economic growth and it will be totally unattractive to new residents and companies to the area.

I'm as bothered by this trend as anybody, but comments like this just sound like an ignorant hate-fest. KC is missing a lot of opportunities, yes, but there is no evidence whatsoever to back up your doom-and-gloom prognostications.

"...if you can even call it [a metropolitan area]"? Give me a break. Stick to Brooklyn.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by brooksider2brooklyn

This is the main reason Kansas City will never again be a great American city. That metropolitan area (if you can even call it that) has slowly taken itself off the national map by dismantling the core city to prop up the suburbs at a time when cities across the country are doing the exact opposite.

Good luck kc, but if you keep this up, soon your metro will be a fourth tier city with little economic growth and it will be totally unattractive to new residents and companies to the area.

1. If they'd done a better job with thier infrastructure and public schools etc.....all provided for an additional 1% tax (say what?).....it wouldn't be nearly as attractive to move.

2. The state of MO (and every other state) is spending money to lure $$$ from other states in the way of businesses, tourism etc. MO is just spending their money to do that in OTHER parts of the state and KC is the red-headed stepchild. <shrug> That's a decision by MO on what they want to poach and KC is getting the short end of the stick while Branson, St. Louis etc. aren't.

[kcmo]

I have known about this (how could I not ), but didn't want to post it here yet because I get tired of being one of the only ones that seems to even be bothered by it.

While I don’t think these decisions are going to kill KC, I do think these are huge setbacks. It’s like for every step forward, there is at least one step back for metro KC, so the city just keeps spinning its wheels. Luckily, the city of KCMO is doing everything they possibly can to bring back the city despite the economic war they are fighting with Kansas or the region would be sliding backwards, not just slipping its wheels. But with the economy of KCMO continually being poached by Kansas, there is only so much KCMO can do to remain relevant and competitive on a larger scale.

First off, this company is not a downtown company. They are going from one sprawl location to another. (Tiffany Springs area to western KCK).

But the KC area is taking yet another company off its tax revenue footprint! This will remove the economic impact of several hundred employees and probably whatever corporate tax the company pays. They will probably get a near free office building in this ridiculous “village east” development as well. Village East is WORSE than village West. It’s car dealerships and fast food restaurants! It’s in the middle of nowhere once again. It might have an amazing soccer training facility, but is it really worth it? And is a location like this for such a nice attraction really going to impress anybody from outside of KC? If Kansas is going to STAR bond everything under the sun, the at least rebuild something, do something productive! For the love of god, hire an urban planner from the 21st century.

The biggest thing about all this is that almost nobody will say a word about yet another massive corporate welfare project in suburban KC. They won’t know or care about it. They will continue to be totally clueless. But they will be the first to ask me “where will we get the money to pay for that?” when I propose to build something like a river levee trail!

Sometimes I don’t get KC. I don’t get KC. I just don’t get KC...

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

1. If they'd done a better job with thier infrastructure and public schools etc.....all provided for an additional 1% tax (say what?).....it wouldn't be nearly as attractive to move.

2. The state of MO (and every other state) is spending money to lure $$$ from other states in the way of businesses, tourism etc. MO is just spending their money to do that in OTHER parts of the state and KC is the red-headed stepchild. <shrug> That's a decision by MO on what they want to poach and KC is getting the short end of the stick while Branson, St. Louis etc. aren't.

Do you have any idea how much money Kansas is throwing into this effort? NO other state even comes close to the amount of incentives Topeka is offering, in exchange for virtually NO additional residents (because the relocations are local.) This is not comparable to what anyone else is doing, anywhere. If you need to see the numbers in order to believe me, let me know and I'll track them down.

Additionally, this move has nothing to do with infrastructure or public schools, because the DFA is currently located in an area which is doing well on both counts.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

1. If they'd done a better job with thier infrastructure and public schools etc.....all provided for an additional 1% tax (say what?).....it wouldn't be nearly as attractive to move.

2. The state of MO (and every other state) is spending money to lure $$$ from other states in the way of businesses, tourism etc. MO is just spending their money to do that in OTHER parts of the state and KC is the red-headed stepchild. <shrug> That's a decision by MO on what they want to poach and KC is getting the short end of the stick while Branson, St. Louis etc. aren't.

What a bunch of BS. You have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to the Kansas forums where you belong.

Dairy Farmers of America would move from a BETTER area of the metro near KCI airport in an area with better schools than KCK with better roads that are getting even better (KCMO is spending millions in Tiffany Springs right now on infrastructure) to a county with higher state and local taxes despite the KCMO E tax.

This company doesn't give a rats ass about taxes, they will get back more than they will ever pay in taxes by moving to Kansas.

Try again.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by rwiksell

Do you have any idea how much money Kansas is throwing into this effort? NO other state even comes close to the amount of incentives Topeka is offering, in exchange for virtually NO additional residents (because the relocations are local.) This is not comparable to what anyone else is doing, anywhere. If you need to see the numbers in order to believe me, let me know and I'll track them down.

Additionally, this move has nothing to do with infrastructure or public schools, because the DFA is currently located in an area which is doing well on both counts.

There are no numbers. I have yet to find anything remotely close to what Kansas does. I subscribe to four business journals plus try to keep up with major projects in most cities and it JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN.

States simply do not give away tens of millions of dollars to lure a few hundred employees from 25 miles away. There are no other examples. States rarely give away 5-10 million to lure 500 employees from 500 miles away, let alone do what KS does.

Yet, Kansas has done it many many times.

[shindig]

Originally Posted by brooksider2brooklyn

This is the main reason Kansas City will never again be a great American city. That metropolitan area (if you can even call it that) has slowly taken itself off the national map by dismantling the core city to prop up the suburbs at a time when cities across the country are doing the exact opposite.

Good luck kc, but if you keep this up, soon your metro will be a fourth tier city with little economic growth and it will be totally unattractive to new residents and companies to the area.

We got ourselves a drama queen. 4th tier city, lol. For a Company that hasn't even announced it is moving and said they are looking at both KS and MO locations? Blame the Company, not the system or process. This crapola of a Company is only looking out for handouts, if they leave MO, then I say good riddance. KS will bankrupt themselves soon enough.

[CrownVic95]

How are we defining "private company" here? With this story we have a very misleading, if not blatantly false, premise.