[qingguy]

Originally Posted by hotjambalaya

Ok, so its not like you literally are out there with a set of instructions and a shovel!

I'm curious because I have a family friend looking to put a pool in also, and at 80 years old, he can't do any heavy lifting!

I take it then that he sources different people and they do each part, as opposed to just dealing with one pool company to get the work done? -does he manage the build as well or is that where the 'build it yourself' element comes in?

Edit: done a little research, whats Doug Day's connection with Desert springs pools?

Exactly, I worked with a designer for my plans, then a structural engineer for the engineering, then got my permit, excavated, plumbed, steel, electrical, shotcrete, tile, decking, plaster and then start-up. It was interesting, I was speaking with the owner of one of the companies who did a major phase of my build and as we were watching his crew work he told me if you have good subs a pool pretty much builds its self. While I do think it's a little more involved than that, my experience is he's right. With one exception I had very good subs. Even the subs I didn't use came highly recommended.

Subs are the same subs who are doing work for the major pool companies in town, after finishing-up my job they'd be heading to a job for a pool company.

Seems like it would be overwhelming but honestly it's not. It's not for everyone, but if you're willing to get involved in your build from a management perspective you really can save a lot of money and get an upgraded pool. Not saying I didn't have a couple of hiccups along the way because I did, but from my conversations with people who use pool companies they have hiccups as well. Overall good experience and we love the final product.

Here's a picture of what I did. When we started backyard was just dirt. For some perspective on size, the planters are 8' wide (each) and the pots are 3'. Pool is about 26,000 gallons. Took just over six weeks from ground breaking and I created at least a one to two week delay due to needing to be out of town.

[ddrhazy]

I'm looking to replaster a pool. Can anyone pass along info for whoever did their plaster on their own pool?

[dario77]

ok so if you do owner/builder thing and something goes wrong in the middle of that process what do you do?
You don't have company where you can complain.
You have contractors and they can say we did what you asked us.
Lets say at the end of building process you find out that guys didn't do good job with concrete and needs to be fixed.
Because of that all other work (electricians,tile,etc...) needs to be re-done to but they refuse because its not their fault.

[dario77]

Originally Posted by qingguy

Exactly, I worked with a designer for my plans, then a structural engineer for the engineering, then got my permit, excavated, plumbed, steel, electrical, shotcrete, tile, decking, plaster and then start-up. It was interesting, I was speaking with the owner of one of the companies who did a major phase of my build and as we were watching his crew work he told me if you have good subs a pool pretty much builds its self. While I do think it's a little more involved than that, my experience is he's right. With one exception I had very good subs. Even the subs I didn't use came highly recommended.

Subs are the same subs who are doing work for the major pool companies in town, after finishing-up my job they'd be heading to a job for a pool company.

Seems like it would be overwhelming but honestly it's not. It's not for everyone, but if you're willing to get involved in your build from a management perspective you really can save a lot of money and get an upgraded pool. Not saying I didn't have a couple of hiccups along the way because I did, but from my conversations with people who use pool companies they have hiccups as well. Overall good experience and we love the final product.

Here's a picture of what I did. When we started backyard was just dirt. For some perspective on size, the planters are 8' wide (each) and the pots are 3'. Pool is about 26,000 gallons. Took just over six weeks from ground breaking and I created at least a one to two week delay due to needing to be out of town.

What about warranty, if something goes wrong with anything?

[Croce]

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

I'm looking to replaster a pool. Can anyone pass along info for whoever did their plaster on their own pool?

Adams redid my pool and used a quartz type finish. That was about 3-4 years ago and I've had no problems, no cracks or discoloration. I had the color changing LED lights installed at the same time and it came out very nice. Without digging out receipts, I believe it was around 4-5k.

[Scott456]

Originally Posted by Croce

Adams redid my pool and used a quartz type finish. That was about 3-4 years ago and I've had no problems, no cracks or discoloration. I had the color changing LED lights installed at the same time and it came out very nice. Without digging out receipts, I believe it was around 4-5k.

4-5K including the lights?
That's the price when the economy was down 4 years ago. I believe the price has gone up dramatically since then.

[qingguy]

Originally Posted by Scott456

4-5K including the lights?
That's the price when the economy was down 4 years ago. I believe the price has gone up dramatically since then.

With lights that would make sense.

I don't know how much work goes into a re-plaster vs. new plaster but I paid less than that for new plaster work 5 weeks ago (plaster only, no lights etc.)

[WestieJeff]

Replaster is more expensive since they have to remove the existing material.

I had my pool re-plastered with Pebble Tec by Adams 11 years ago and it was $8,000 for a 15k gallon pool. I skipped doing the tile at that time, so a few years later I had to pay to have to tile redone as they were falling off into the pool (that was $1,850). It's cheaper to do the tile at the same time as the plaster since they can demolish everything at once, I should have done them together.

The Pebble Tec has been fine, but actually just in the last month I've noticed one area is crumbling on the corner of the steps. Apparently Pebble Tec can have an issue on corners. The warranty from Adams is 10 years.

I hate having a pool.

Originally Posted by qingguy

With lights that would make sense.

I don't know how much work goes into a re-plaster vs. new plaster but I paid less than that for new plaster work 5 weeks ago (plaster only, no lights etc.)

[airics]

Originally Posted by qingguy

With lights that would make sense.

I don't know how much work goes into a re-plaster vs. new plaster but I paid less than that for new plaster work 5 weeks ago (plaster only, no lights etc.)

Replaster is ALOT more expensive..


you didn't put lighting??? The colored led is what makes the pool in my opinion

[qingguy]

Originally Posted by airics

Replaster is ALOT more expensive..


you didn't put lighting??? The colored led is what makes the pool in my opinion

No I put in lighting, just not by my plaster guys. Two Pentair 5G LED lights and I agree, they really are nice.