09-22-2012, 03:43 PM
Location: Long Island to Lehigh Valley
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ok...need some thoughts...
My husband went to Allentown/Bethlehem to look around the different areas for about 3 days....he went to get a flavor for some of the areas, met with a couple of Realtors to see some houses - he was all over Lehigh County - Northampton County - even saw a few in the Bucks county area. He was very impressed overall <tired, but impressed - lol> He even got to eat at some nice restaurants and go to the Casino -
a good trip for sure.
There were a few houses that he liked - some areas he liked a bit better then others (which was the whole point of the trip) but one house that REALLY stood out to me online, and that my husband really liked as well was in Slatington. I spent some time researching the area on the internet this afternoon, and read some not-so-good comments about it. Is there anyone here on the boards that lives/has lived in Slatington that could tell me more about the area. (you can send me a private message if you prefer) I know that there can be many differences of opinion, I just would like the good, bad and the ugly before we make a decision to move - especially since we really will not have the opportunity to find out what its REALLY like ourselves, until after we already buy something. A Real Estate agent is only going to say so much.... My husband said it looked like an interesting area.....he didnt have any RED FLAGS as he drove around the area. He said the house and its setting was quite beautiful. Exactly the type of property we want. Its listed in the hi $260`s...it has all we would want in a house and property - it even has a beautiful pool, but if the area is really that *Iffy*, I do not want to make a major mistake. I just want a quiet, safe area. I know I will end up finding myself driving a bit to find a favorite supermarket - or restaurant etc, and thats fine - I drive everywhere here in NY - but I do not want to go somewhere where I do not feel safe!! I just think it would be best to ask people who live there - know the area well to kind of give me a better idea.
ANY info would be great!!! Enjoy the rest of the weekend!!
~Kathy
09-22-2012, 04:05 PM
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I would really think hard about Slatington. It's far enough out there that they don't get a lot of newcomers and it will be hard to make friends and I'm afraid it's going to seem more backward then quaint. If you look at the demographics,
Slatington Pennsylvania Demographics only 8.2% of the population has bachelors degree, less then the state avg. of 14%, Less then 50% of the population even have a HS degree!
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09-22-2012, 11:19 PM
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Hi LIKate,
I looked at houses mainly in the Walnutport area and wandered into Slatington to look at a house or two. Slatington turned me off. I am going to bottom-line it and hope not to offend anyone. I found the area trashy. Maybe it was just that one part I was in or the particular house, but it did it in for me. I won't go back. Now, when I search on-line, if a house pops up in Slatington I don't even open the link. For myself, you couldn't give me a mansion in Slatington for a bottom dollar price. It isn't terrible, and there are areas with higher crime, but Slatington was off my list...fast.
09-23-2012, 12:04 AM
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Slatington $269,900 BDR:3 Baths:2 Sqft: 2,212 Lot:1.30 acres Year built:1978 taxes:$6,089
If that is the house you are looking at, I can see the attraction to the large piece of land surrounded by woods. It looks like the neighbor has 15 acres. Hopefully he has not plans to develop.
But the homeowners have been trying to sell for 5 months, clearly trying to get close to the $280K they paid three years ago.
The downside to that big piece of land is your life will be limited in the area. The area probably peaked before WWII. There is a PATHMARK for basic shopping in Walnutport, and a Weiss Market about 6 miles away. But if you want some luxury items then you will have to drive 12 miles to Wegman's Food in Allentown.
I would check the heat. If it's electric or oil (which it probably is) it will cost you in the winter.
The Slate industry which was so prominent in the 19th century took a huge hit in WWI and almost collapsed in the Great Depression of the 1930's. Don't be surprised by disparaging remarks, as locals tend to regard it as the backwoods, the Lehigh Valley's mini-Appalachia. But a lot of people have taken advantage of the cheap land and plentiful trees to build some nice homes. But they are people who like to keep themselves. Whitehall is the principal shopping area of Allentown, which is also north of the city.
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09-23-2012, 04:02 AM
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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I don't really consider Slatington that far out there. It's only about a 10 minute drive to Whitehall if you take the backroad through Walnutport and Laury's Station. Then again I live in Carbon County so what do I know? Everything is a drive for me.
However, I will tell you my exact comment that I made today when driving through Slatington on the back way to Cedar Crest Blvd.
"There are a couple of really nice houses in Slatington. It's too bad the rest of it is such a dump."
Up on the hill past Rentschler Chevrolet near the school campus, which I think is actually Washington Township, there are some nice homes. There are some nice homes further up 873 toward Schnecksville, too. But IMO the payoff of living near Slatington, with a not-so-great school district and a pretty crappy town nearby, is not worth it.
Plus IIRC I think you said you wanted to be in a walkable area? (Maybe that was another poster) Slatington proper may be walkable, but you won't like what you are walking around. The outskirts of town aren't walkable at all.
It's not terribly unsafe, but it's really dumpy.
09-23-2012, 05:48 AM
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I think you get the picture. The borough has had no change in population in 50 years. There was one permit for a new house since 2004.
But the home is nice, and you are very nearby the Lehigh Gap so it is easy to go skiing at Blue Mountain or in the summer to go to Beltsville Lake. You are not living in the borough, but in the township nearby.
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The nearby places to eat like Old Post Inn is 2.5 miles away.
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Old Post Inn: 3337 Old Post Rd. Slatington, PA 18080
Monday-Sunday 11am-10pm; Friday-Saturday 4:30pm-8:30pm
A former stagecoach stop and general store, the Old Post Inn has a colorful history.
Both a tavern and formal dining area are housed in the 17th century building, which boasts a cozy, country atmosphere.
After more than 20 years of family operation, this eatery has gotten the hang of making some traditional American favorites.
They have a few seafood signatures, so try the homemade crab cakes or the lobster tail dinner.
An extensive salad bar and weekly specials like the all-you-can-eat pasta are some added bonuses.
East Supreme Buffet :2610 MacArthur Rd Whitehall, PA 18052 (popular place 13 miles away)
Wegman's high quality supermarket (14 miles away)
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09-23-2012, 05:54 AM
Location: Long Island to Lehigh Valley
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Thank you all! VERY much!
My husband got home last night - and was telling me all about his adventures. All he did was drive from 7 am until dark, looking all over - talking to Realtors and people from the area. He gave it a
thumbs up! He especially liked Bethlehem and said that Allentown was better then he was expecting (given some of the things he has read/heard beforehand) We had at one time drove through an area in Philly that scared the
heck out of me.
I thank you for the honest opinions on the area. I really do not think that Slatington is the place for us. Though that house IS quite amazing (Yes Paco - I believe that is the house) My husband was not too excited about the other house being in front of this one - and someone possibly developing all that land down the road would NOT be something I would want to deal with!! Very good point!!!)
I am sure we will find something nice.....I look forward to getting there in the next few weeks and getting a good look around.
Have a great day!
~Kathy
09-23-2012, 07:40 AM
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I thank you for the honest opinions on the area. I really do not think that Slatington is the place for us. Though that house IS quite amazing (Yes Paco - I believe that is the house) My husband was not too excited about the other house being in front of this one - and someone possibly developing all that land down the road would NOT be something I would want to deal with!! Very good point!!!)
My guess is that the house you are looking at (built 1978) was the original house. It was sold for $250K in 2003. It looks like the owner built the new house in front (closer to the road) in 2009, and sold the old house (30 July 2009 for $280K).
Since the other house has the land on all sides of you, if he develops it would change the nature of the property significantly.
In theory the price paid for the house should be irrelevant to the sale price. In reality if the seller can't get enough to even clear his mortgage, they may not be in a position to sell.
Find out about the heat. You are near the mountains, and some homes from that era have expensive electric heat with poor insulation.
The 18080 zip code covers the borough of Slatington and the Township of Washington (Lehigh County) , and some of Heidelberg and North Whitehall Township. But Slatington is the default name for the zip code. Since the home is outside of the borough limits, you should try to refer to your home as being in Washington Township in any documentation that might be used for resale or evaluation. The stats are slightly better for the Township. There are mansions in the township that are on sale for over $700K, while you would be very hard pressed to find a home for as much as $180K in the borough.
If you end up anywhere in the north part of the Lehigh Valley the Blue Mountain ski resort is very close, so it would help to get a season pass. For a small hill it has over 1000' of vertical which is very rare. Season passes are $635 pp or $490 pp for weekdays. An all day pass is as much as $51. The mountain can get very crowded on weekends as it is so close to Philadelphia, so a
weekday pass (mountain open to 10PM) might be more useful for someone living 10 minutes away.
Median Price of home from (2006-2010)
Slatington Borough $141,700 median price,
4,232 population, Persons below poverty level (15.9%)
Washington Township $209,600 median price,
6,624 population, Persons below poverty level (7.8%)
The Lake at Beltsville is also not far, which is a nice place to go in the summer.
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Most Common Occupations - Education, training, and library occupations (%)
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare practitioners and technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)