In general I find LI parents to be less disciplinary in nature than.. (Massapequa: renting, house)
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Midwestern parents. As somebody thats lived in 6 different states, and spent a great deal of time on LI growing up there, this is just a pointed observation. I've seen more kids talk back to their parents , kids act more aggressively towards their parents, and parents do nothing. I'm sure somebody will come back at me and say "kids act up everywhere get over it". I was in Massapequa Preserve and a kid yelled"Mom shut the fuc* up' when she told him to slow down on his bicycle. Other kids at walt whitman Mall were running around in the Mall hitting each other knocking into other people while parents sat on the bench stuffing their faces with ice cream saying nothing. And the icing on the cake (NO PUN INTENDED) was when i was in Friendlys and a mother and father told their kid to eat his chicken nuggets and he stuck his middle finger out at them. right in their faces and they did nothing. This was all seen in the course of a weekend. Do you people on Long Island discipline your kids, or are you scared of them?
I don't live on Long Island but I find your conclusion (LI parents less disciplinary than...) faulty in that it's based on ONE WHOLE WEEKEND. Wow! I'm sorry you ran into people like that. But they are everywhere. Yes, even in the midwest.
I agree with the OP. Was at the doctor today and there was a woman and her daughter in the waiting room. Daughter was about 17 years old. She decides to scrunch up on the seat and put her dirty shoes up on her chair. The mother didnt say a word. There is a definitely a lack of discipline and an overbundance of laxity in Long Island parenting.
Yeah there is a total lack of respect all over LI. From drivers taking up 2 spots because they can't be bothered to park correctly, to people walking and expecting you to hold the door open and not returning the favor, to parents allowing way too much garbage with their kids. It's everywhere.
I'm another that agrees 100% with the OP. I'm not just talking about a weekend here either. Kids on L.I. don't have the respect or manners like they do down here. When my sons or daughter have friends over our house, they treat myself and wife with such courtesy and respect, it took such a long time to get use to it coming from the Island. A parent just has to look at their child and the kid gets the point here even without words be spoken. Like night and day difference. Not only respect for parents but for people in general.
The problem is the government stepped in and said that your not allowed to discipline your kid. What used to be considered a warning is now excessive force. What we used to consider a punishment is now abuse. When you have grounded them and it doesn't work, talked to them and it doesn't work, put them in the corner and it doesn't work. tried to make them wash dishes and they give you the finger, send them to theyre room and they tell you to go **** yourself and walk out the front door. what do you do then? you cant even grab them and they know it... friend of ours tried to grab her 15 year old daughter to keep her from leaving the house and getting into a 19 year old boys car and she told the school her mother abused her and showed her the bruise on her arm and child protective services was at the house the next day. she was being watched for months. the government needs to butt out! there is a big difference between bestowing a healthy dose of fear and abusing a child.
fear is how we learn not to do things, you swat at a wasp and it stings you, you learn to fear the wasp and you stay away from them in the future.
I remember many a time where the threat of a spanking thwarted my evil plans when I was a kid. in truth it only happened once... but the fear of it happening again stopped me from being stupid in the future.
disagree. The friends of my children are very well behaved. Of course I have seen some very poor behavior out there too but I think it is the exception rather than the rule.
Do you people on Long Island discipline your kids, or are you scared of them?
Let's ease up on the "you people" on Long Island type remarks, you sound like a dolt in that regard. But your point is a valid one. A big problem is some parents don't like to teach the kids the word "No".
Imho, "NO" should be used sparingly, but adequately.
-You never use NO and you get kids doing w/e the F they want.
-You use it too little and you get kids with no manners but know what they want in life.
-You use it too much and you dumb down the kid (turns them into a P*SSY / wimp) and possibly get the exact opposite of the desired outcome (spiteful kid).
Let's ease up on the "you people" on Long Island type remarks, you sound like a dolt in that regard.
huh? He/she is obviously not from the area so "you people" is just like "you guys" and does not sound like it is a remark.
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