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Some LI police officers have wives who work and, of course, that is a given. Why not?
The question is, do their wives HAVE TO work (as in for economic survival) like many other wives on Long Island do? That is what dman was talking about. Not whether or not they do work, but if they HAVE TO work.
...and of course, this whole peripheral subject will be used to try to sidetrack the whole conversation.
Nassau and Suffolk cops make enough money with High School diplomas or associates degrees to survive on one salary with a family of 4 here on LI..there's pretty much no other profession you can say that for....
Even the much maligned teachers (masters degree) don't reach those levels of comp until they've been teaching for 20+ years..at which time the cops are retiring.
Why everyone on LI should should feel honored to subsidize that, I don't know.
Being a cop should be a solid profession that adequately compensates qualified individuals, not a lottery ticket that generates 10,000 people clamoring for 200 spots.
...and of course, this whole peripheral subject will be used to try to sidetrack the whole conversation.
No, it's to point out an inaccuracy in what you implied. You implied they don't work. I'm telling you I don't know any who don't work. Maybe you do. I don't. You're overthinking this.
No, it's to point out an inaccuracy in what you implied. You implied they don't work. I'm telling you I don't know any who don't work. Maybe you do. I don't. You're overthinking this.
That is what you think he "implied." He said HAS TO work, not DOES work.
And how many do you actually know in real life?
If we're going to make a "study" we should at least have some real numbers, shouldn't we?
There's quite a bit of area between 150K and 30K. I'm sure people are aware of this, but PBA guidelines apparently require that no one arguing on the police side of the issue must use rationality or logic in their arguments. Only hyperbole, exaggeration, and fear...and when that doesn't work accuse some one of being a criminal or having made a poor career choice.
We could have a more than adequate police force in Suffolk and Nassau counties with cops making 100K with some overtime, as opposed to 150K, and the cops would still do well. Their wives might have to work like most of the rest of the families on LI, granted. That reduction alone would see a decrease in property taxes by a few percentage points, and would leave more money in the sales tax coffers..or maybe they could lower that also by a percent or 2, because public safety is part of what we pay in sales tax. Look it up.
The $150k is supervisors and chiefs.
LI cops will continue to make high salaries because they have not hired. So you have less cops making more overtime.
Lets remember up till last year Nassau had a starting salary of $23,000. Try paying your mortgage on that salary with 9 years till top pay rate.
You make it sound like ncpd makes 23k for 9 years, which is false. Also last I checked it was 7 years til top pay.
The avg was $145k per officer in 2009 after all compensation was accounted for. That's the median by the way. If that were dropped to $110 the police would still be highly paid but the county would save millions.
You make it sound like ncpd makes 23k for 9 years, which is false. Also last I checked it was 7 years til top pay.
The avg was $145k per officer in 2009 after all compensation was accounted for. That's the median by the way. If that were dropped to $110 the police would still be highly paid but the county would save millions.
LI cops will continue to make high salaries because they have not hired. So you have less cops making more overtime.
Lets remember up till last year Nassau had a starting salary of $23,000. Try paying your mortgage on that salary with 9 years till top pay rate.
There are patrolmen and sergeants that retire at those levels. They can spike the pension up with OT and specialties, I recall that a patrolman who administered a breathalizer getting a $10K bump.
Interesting that you focused on the starting salary which is now 35K and $108K after 8 years for NCPD? Do you know of any job on long island with that kind of guarantee even with a bachelors? and Suffolk is presently worse thna NCPD.
LI cops will continue to make high salaries because they have not hired. So you have less cops making more overtime.
Lets remember up till last year Nassau had a starting salary of $23,000. Try paying your mortgage on that salary with 9 years till top pay rate.
Hahha seriously? I'm sure the last time someone in the NCPD made $23k a year Magnum P.I. was still airing new episodes.
You don't think we could easily replace both entire police departments with the same number of people, working the same amount of O/T, except making HALF the salary with limited medical benefits and no pension, and easily maintain the same level of quality of police work? I'm not advocating that, but I don't think it would make one bit of difference.
$23k ?? Are you kidding me. What is that, $23 per MONTH you mean?? Here is close to half the force.
\ someone asked to post "Source" for your math, you can go here> http://seethroughny.org/ to view the full list. But Seethrough is a database app, you CANNOT link to it like a static webpage. So the only way to source, is to paste the data here. (names excluded of course, although this is PUBLIC data).
Average Pay (2010) $125,731.67
Median Pay (2010) $129,213.34
Avg of Top 1000 Pay (Top 40% Bracket) $157,089.77
Avg of Top 250 Pay (Top 10% Bracket) $179,782.06
"There will be layoffs" . These idiotic unions are cutting off their noses, to spite their greedy faces...
That is what you think he "implied." He said HAS TO work, not DOES work.
And how many do you actually know in real life?
If we're going to make a "study" we should at least have some real numbers, shouldn't we?
you are 100% correct Ilove. Don't believe the 1% minority that tell you they NEED a second income. The proof is right in front of our faces. Look up there ^^^.
$45K after one year, 90 BASE after 6..no on makes base.
Again up to last year it was $23k for the first year.
That's after quitting your old job and spending 7 months in a police academy 6 days a week with the risk of getting terminated.
The starting salary was recently raised to a whopping 34k only after union givebacks
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