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Old 09-15-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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There really isn't all that much space until you go further out east. Also the Lighthouse Project was tied to the redeveloping the Nassau Hub.
I'd look east as there doesn't seem to be a demand for that (for some reason) in the TOH. Even with the premium on land I'd have to think there would be some place that could handle either an arena or a project like LH.
Time will tell if the Islanders going to Brooklyn will wake folks up to why the Island is not progressing like it could and why business is moving west. Then again maybe Long Islanders really just don't care anymore.
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Maybe not double, but I'd like to see a county tax bill that only went up 23% during the Suozzi reign. What you'll find is more like 50%-75% for the avg owner in the median price range. I know the wacky assessment system might have something to do with that. Suozzi also nickel-and-dimed residents in other ways, including the home energy tax. Plus he had plans on more successive 3.9% tax increases for 2010, 2011.. 2012? Let's not forget how much borrowing Suozzi did during what was a booming economy here. With all that revenue coming in, he couldve cut taxes. Mangano, OTOH, has not raised taxes - even amid plunging revenues and during the worst recession of our lifetimes, plus having to deal with the unsustainable union contracts Suozzi left us with.

Let's be real: Nassau needs a fiscal conservative in there. Mangano is the guy for that. If you're going for an unreliable tax-and-spender type, Suozzi is your guy. I can't think of any reason to vote for Suozzi. Unless of course I was a die-hard Democrat.
A fiscal conservative would produce a balanced budget, Mangano is not that person. People seem to forget that he was a legislator during the Gulotta Administration that got us to where we are today, now he's suddenly fiscally responsible. To be fair he has cut some payroll but not nearly enough. Speaking of nickel-dime Mangano has raised fees on everything from red light cameras to park fess that now exceed what would have been an energy tax, meanwhile we still have a deficit and still borrowing money to cover the budget shortfalls, sound familiar.

My preference would have been for Haber, we need someone from outside both parties.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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I'd look east as there doesn't seem to be a demand for that (for some reason) in the TOH. Even with the premium on land I'd have to think there would be some place that could handle either an arena or a project like LH.
Time will tell if the Islanders going to Brooklyn will wake folks up to why the Island is not progressing like it could and why business is moving west. Then again maybe Long Islanders really just don't care anymore.
Agree. I think the areas of Melville or Hauppauge and Islandia combined are more capable than Uniondale of handling a commercial/development hub in terms of having the existing infrastructure to support more density and activity. The only hangup will be the Islanders which was a major consideration for the LH proposal. I think Wang wanted to cater to NYC-based fans as well and a place in Suffolk would have made the commute for games too burdensome.

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Old 09-15-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Since you have all the answers, you should take it a step further and run for office. Why waste your talent on a forum when you can really be useful and create, as opposed to claim to know all the answers on a faceless forum.

Ill vote you in.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Agree. I think the areas of Melville or Hauppauge and Islandia combined are more capable than Uniondale of handling a commercial/development hub in terms of having the existing infrastructure to support more density and activity. The only hangup will be the Islanders which was a major consideration for the LH proposal. I think Wang wanted to cater to NYC-based fans as well and a place in Suffolk would have made the commute for games too burdensome.
I hadn't ever thought of the Islanders being an NYC team, though they are now. I can't think of one of my city born Ranger fan uncles rooting for the Islanders even after living there for decades. Of course we young ones were all Islander fans.

I do wonder if someone built a world class arena in one of those areas if they wouldn't have a pro-team within 10 years. That's depending on if even Long Islanders are now looking west for all things sports. After all the Islanders aren't the first team that we lost.

Just wondering, did the high restrictions at Hauppauge get lifted? Sounds like they really want to grow and that was in the way.
Islandia is one of the places that I thought would have really boomed after CA moved in and given it's pretty close to being the center of the Island.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes, she represents patronage and arm twisting. It will take a VERY angry and involved electorate to change it and while there is plenty of the former, the latter is nowhere to be found. ToH is it's own weird repub entity. They don't work well with Nassau or Albany repubs OR dems.
Why is there no max number of terms? Seems the situation is suited perfectly for having a limit.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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A fiscal conservative would produce a balanced budget, Mangano is not that person. People seem to forget that he was a legislator during the Gulotta Administration that got us to where we are today, now he's suddenly fiscally responsible. To be fair he has cut some payroll but not nearly enough. Speaking of nickel-dime Mangano has raised fees on everything from red light cameras to park fess that now exceed what would have been an energy tax, meanwhile we still have a deficit and still borrowing money to cover the budget shortfalls, sound familiar.

My preference would have been for Haber, we need someone from outside both parties.
Better to have higher red light camera fees than a regressive energy tax. Nassau is running surpluses now.

New York State Awards Nassau County $5M For Cost Savings that Led to 2012 Budget Surplus

Mangano delivers third no-property tax hike budget

What worries me now is this new PBA contract. Mangano might be "giving the keys away" again to get reelected. I think it's going to cost us big in the short term with possibly meager savings 15-20 years from now.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Why is there no max number of terms? Seems the situation is suited perfectly for having a limit.
There certainly should be.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Better to have higher red light camera fees than a regressive energy tax. Nassau is running surpluses now.

New York State Awards Nassau County $5M For Cost Savings that Led to 2012 Budget Surplus

Mangano delivers third no-property tax hike budget

What worries me now is this new PBA contract. Mangano might be "giving the keys away" again to get reelected. I think it's going to cost us big in the short term with possibly meager savings 15-20 years from now.
If Nassau has a budget surplus then there is no need for NIFA. The increase in fees is no less regressive than any other tax, just more subtle and hidden in many areas.

Agree on the PBA contract, pretty much giving away quite a bit and pushing it into the future.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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Just wondering, did the high restrictions at Hauppauge get lifted? Sounds like they really want to grow and that was in the way.
Islandia is one of the places that I thought would have really boomed after CA moved in and given it's pretty close to being the center of the Island.
What restrictions would these be? I would have thought large tracts of Hauppauge and Islandia would have been zoned for commercial use. Proximity to the airport is also an advantage,
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