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Old 01-16-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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And your green space nonsense is a joke. There is still plenty here. Is there as much as PA? No. Because this is a friggin island with a fraction of the land. If you want to compare apples to apples NYS as a whole has as much if not more "green space" then PA does. And guess what I'm just fine with the parks right near my house, you can have all the endless wilderness you want.
How true! I live right on the border of Queens and look at how much green space and recreational space we have here.

Village of Valley Stream* Click on "Parks and Recreation," then click on "Activities and Programs." Keep scrolling down ... more and more parks and outdoor activities ...

Note your beloved cross country skiing is available in the below State park ... I can be there in 5 minutes ... how long does it take you to get out to where you cross country ski (that is, if you actually do it or just stay curled up in a ball of misery during the winter as you said on the PA forum):

Valley Stream State Park Amenities & Activities- NYS Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation

We have an old-fashioned Village Green park, which features a free concert series every summer at its bandshell:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Valle...4360?sk=events

There's even a sizable park for DOGS. What about your immediate community?

Friends of Valley Stream Dogs - Home
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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I don't get your fixation on owning a home. Even if I didn't own a home (which I did), it isn't like renters on LI aren't affected by sky high property taxes. Since rentals are limited (nimbyism), landlords are in a position to pass off their higher property taxes on to renters. Just look at all the people renting out their illegal basements to stay ahead of the tax burden.
"home" does not equal "house". Sorry.
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I don't get your fixation on owning a home. Even if I didn't own a home (which I did), it isn't like renters on LI aren't affected by sky high property taxes. Since rentals are limited (nimbyism), landlords are in a position to pass off their higher property taxes on to renters. Just look at all the people renting out their illegal basements to stay ahead of the tax burden.
I think S.I.B.'s fixation is on LIARS ...
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:12 PM
 
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How true! I live right on the border of Queens and look at how much green space and recreational space we have here.

Village of Valley Stream* Click on "Parks and Recreation," then click on "Activities and Programs." Keep scrolling down ... more and more parks and outdoor activities ...

Note your beloved cross country skiing is available in the below State park ... I can be there in 5 minutes ... how long does it take you to get out to where you cross country ski (that is, if you actually do it or just stay curled up in a ball of misery during the winter as you said on the PA forum):

Valley Stream State Park Amenities & Activities- NYS Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation

We have an old-fashioned Village Green park, which features a free concert series every summer at its bandshell:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Valle...4360?sk=events

There's even a sizable park for DOGS. What about your immediate community?

Friends of Valley Stream Dogs - Home
That's not a real park. A park is somewhere you can hike around for a couple of miles and not see another soul, not hear cars on the Southern State roar by. Plus, in the summer such a small area is probably packed and you have to pay a fee to get in there.
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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That's not a real park. A park is somewhere you can hike around for a couple of miles and not see another soul, not hear cars on the Southern State roar by. Plus, in the summer such a small area is probably packed and you have to pay a fee to get in there.

Yawn.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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That's not a real park. A park is somewhere you can hike around for a couple of miles and not see another soul, not hear cars on the Southern State roar by. Plus, in the summer such a small area is probably packed and you have to pay a fee to get in there.
According to the dictionary, ILLIB's park passes the litmus test.

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park
pärk/
noun
noun: park; plural noun: parks
1. a large public green area in a town, used for recreation.
"a walk around the park"
synonyms: playground, play area, public garden, garden(s), green
"we were playing in the park"
a large area of land kept in its natural state for public recreational use.
a large enclosed area of land used to accommodate wild animals in captivity.
noun: wildlife park; plural noun: wildlife parks
synonyms: parkland, wilderness area, protected area, nature reserve, game reserve
"a new national park"
NORTH AMERICAN
a stadium or enclosed area used for sports.
a large enclosed piece of ground, typically with woodland and pasture, attached to a large country house.
"the house is set in its own park"
(in the western US) a broad, flat, mostly open area in a mountainous region.

2.an area devoted to a specified purpose.
"an industrial park"
BRITISH
a parking lot or garage.
"a coach park"

3. (in a car with automatic transmission) the position of the gear selector in which the gears are locked, preventing the vehicle's movement.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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According to the dictionary, ILLIB's park passes the litmus test.
Thank you! In addition to that, my post was not limited to the ONE nearby park (Valley Stream State Park) he sneered at, but to SEVEN nearby parks:

Arthur J. Hendrickson Park
Fireman's Field Memorial Sports Complex
Arlington Park
Barrett Park
Village Green Park
Friends of Valley Stream Dog Park

and

Valley Stream State Park!
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Where are the jobs going? Mercedes just said bye bye to the NE (major loss) and I could name more. I can't remember the last significant employer to move into the NE (certainly not NYC). How long you think Wall St and Unions can hold out carrying the load with all those "money managers" and "civil servants"?
Yes, certainly into NYC. New York City is the shining star of the Northeast and would probably serve better as a city-state since it's the world's #1 economic and corporate powerhouse. That will not change in our lifetime.

Both happened in the last three months:

Cadillac brand to move headquarters to New York City

Anheuser-Busch InBev Moving U.S. Sales, Marketing Hub to New York City - NASDAQ.com

Even CNN recently moved all of their upper management and anchors to NYC:

CNN moves to centralize in New York - POLITICO.com

All three moves were simply the desire of CEO to live in NYC. NYC has the highest taxes in the U.S. but still captures by far the largest bulk of super-rich in this country (the world, actually), because there is an allure about NYC -- it's an iconic, glamorous and popular city and executives are willing to put up with the taxes just so they can live there. No way would they put up with the extreme high cost of living if they were located in any other city. New Jersey doesn't have that allure so I can certainly see why large corporations leave there. NYC-type elitists will never move to icky and hicky places like Atlanta or Charlotte.

Bank of America tested that once in 2008-2009 relocated many upper management Merill Lynch employees to Charlotte and they all fled back because it they found it so awful and wanted to go back to NYC.

Wells Fargo Bets on Charlotte Trading After BofA Flees back to NYC - Bloomberg

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Old 01-16-2015, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Yes, certainly into NYC. New York City is the shining star of the Northeast and would probably serve better as a city-state since it's the world's #1 economic and corporate powerhouse. That will not change in our lifetime.

Both happened in the last three months:

Cadillac brand to move headquarters to New York City

Anheuser-Busch InBev Moving U.S. Sales, Marketing Hub to New York City - NASDAQ.com

Even CNN recently moved all of their upper management and anchors to NYC:

CNN moves to centralize in New York - POLITICO.com

All three moves were simply the desire of CEO to live in NYC. NYC has the highest taxes in the U.S. but still captures by far the largest bulk of super-rich in this country (the world, actually), because there is an allure about NYC -- it's an iconic, glamorous and popular city and executives are willing to put up with the taxes just so they can live there. No way would they put up with the extreme high cost of living if they were located in any other city. New Jersey doesn't have that allure so I can certainly see why large corporations leave there. NYC-type elitists will never move to icky and hicky places like Atlanta or Charlotte.

Bank of America tested that once in 2008-2009 relocated many upper management Merill Lynch employees to Charlotte and they all fled back because it they found it so awful and wanted to go back to NYC.

Wells Fargo Bets on Charlotte Trading After BofA Flees back to NYC - Bloomberg
I read the AB article and this is what stood out to me:

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AB InBev Chief Executive Carlos Brito and other senior company executives are already based at the global corporate office in New York. The company's formal headquarters are in Leuven, Belgium.

The company said the relocated employees won't work at the company's existing New York office. It is looking for new office space in the city.

AB InBev said it decided to relocate sales and marketing to New York so that staff could be nearer to advertising agencies and sports leagues it sponsors, such as the National Football League and Major League Baseball.

Management also thinks shifting jobs to New York will help it recruit new employees and retain top marketers and sales executives, according to people close to the company.
In the case of AB, it's about being closer and having easier access to other sectors with which it interacts

CNN's move is part of a larger consolidation by its parent company, Time Warner -- which is already in NYC. It appears that they are waiting on the Harbor Yards project to be built. Given politicians desire to look as though they attract jobs, one would have to think that a sweet heart tax deal was made somewhere in this scenario. Time Warner to sell HQ for $1.3 billion - Jan. 16, 2014
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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Of course if I was Steve Jobs or Oprah Winfrey I would rather live in nyc than charlotte. But as a middle class person, charlotte would win hands down.
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