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Old 05-01-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Westbury,NY
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You've really got to be kidding right? You really need to get out more and explore the world if you think North bellmore isn't safe because of the few minorities that live there.
I agree. Let them go to parts of Westbury...N.Bellmore looks like Garden City in comparison. Then there's some (more like most) parts of Hempstead that make Westbury look like Great Neck!
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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I agree. Let them go to parts of Westbury...N.Bellmore looks like Garden City in comparison. Then there's some (more like most) parts of Hempstead that make Westbury look like Great Neck!
But John, this is how the changes begin. Sure, it doesn't compare to today's Westbury. But Westbury started out great once, too. N. Bellmore is on a slow decline. Property values reflect it, except for the new construction.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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But John, this is how the changes begin. Sure, it doesn't compare to today's Westbury. But Westbury started out great once, too. N. Bellmore is on a slow decline. Property values reflect it, except for the new construction.
There's places on LI that have maintained fairly diverse demographics for generations and have still stayed excellent&desirable. Dix Hills, Farmingdale, Deer Park, Roslyn Heights and Greenlawn to name a few..some of these towns are MUCH nicer than anywhere in SE Nassau.

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Old 05-01-2015, 09:45 PM
 
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The hell are you blathering about. North Bellmore isn't diverse, it's almost 90% white + Asian:

http://www.city-data.com/city/North-...-New-York.html

By comparison, Baldwin is less than 40% white and only 44% white + Asian.

House prices are rising in the "ghetto" north sections of the south shore Nassau towns - lots of knockdowns being flipped for $800k+ new construction. They just built a new complex of houses in North Bellmore that have been selling from $700k up to over $1m. Hardly anything close to a bad area.
You are referring to the new homes being built that are $800 &up. That is all in one small area where the former army base was. They are all being built by one developer. They were never homes on this land where they are building them. Just one small area where these are being built. These are not like those homes that are bought by investors & re-done just to flip them. Look at the surrounding area & the prices. Nothing is priced near as high. If my budget was $800 & up I would never buy one of those homes in that location. Looking to the future that area will not increase in value. The buyers will see that 10+ years down the road into the future. N. Bellmore in the years coming you will be seeing it go downhill. What looks OK to some now..will not be OK several years down the line.

OP if you are buying look South of Sunrise only. Just saying in the future if you have kids (for now at least) south of Sunrise is zoned for the much better HS. I have lived in Bellmore on & off since 1989 & right now would not buy North of Sunrise. Renting is different as you can just up & move if not happy. Buying is more of an investment & you most certainly need to look where are you are buying is headed into the future. If property values for that area go down or you want to move for any reason you will probably owe more $$ than you can sell property for. Just my 2 cents from experience on LI. you always want to buy in an area that does not appear to be going downhill. N. Bellmore most certainly is headed that way. Not today..not tomorrow..but most certainly will be nothing like it is now in the years to come. Would never consider buying a home in N. Bellmore. I know investors that have worked in Bellmore since early 80's. They do many flips in area. They would not personally buy for themselves in N. Bellmore. If they wont..I wont. Now South of Sunrise totally different story.

That being said I have no interest in living anyplace on LI except Bellmore..it is great here.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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But John, this is how the changes begin. Sure, it doesn't compare to today's Westbury. But Westbury started out great once, too. N. Bellmore is on a slow decline. Property values reflect it, except for the new construction.
You are 100% correct on this! It is exactly what is happening. Feel bad for the people buying those new homes.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:44 AM
 
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You are referring to the new homes being built that are $800 &up. That is all in one small area where the former army base was. They are all being built by one developer. They were never homes on this land where they are building them. Just one small area where these are being built. These are not like those homes that are bought by investors & re-done just to flip them. Look at the surrounding area & the prices. Nothing is priced near as high. If my budget was $800 & up I would never buy one of those homes in that location. Looking to the future that area will not increase in value. The buyers will see that 10+ years down the road into the future. N. Bellmore in the years coming you will be seeing it go downhill. What looks OK to some now..will not be OK several years down the line.

OP if you are buying look South of Sunrise only. Just saying in the future if you have kids (for now at least) south of Sunrise is zoned for the much better HS. I have lived in Bellmore on & off since 1989 & right now would not buy North of Sunrise. Renting is different as you can just up & move if not happy. Buying is more of an investment & you most certainly need to look where are you are buying is headed into the future. If property values for that area go down or you want to move for any reason you will probably owe more $$ than you can sell property for. Just my 2 cents from experience on LI. you always want to buy in an area that does not appear to be going downhill. N. Bellmore most certainly is headed that way. Not today..not tomorrow..but most certainly will be nothing like it is now in the years to come. Would never consider buying a home in N. Bellmore. I know investors that have worked in Bellmore since early 80's. They do many flips in area. They would not personally buy for themselves in N. Bellmore. If they wont..I wont. Now South of Sunrise totally different story.

That being said I have no interest in living anyplace on LI except Bellmore..it is great here.
I'm curious to know, what is your opinion on North Merrick? Would you place it in the same boat as North Bellmore? Why or Why not?
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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You are referring to the new homes being built that are $800 &up. That is all in one small area where the former army base was. They are all being built by one developer. They were never homes on this land where they are building them. Just one small area where these are being built. These are not like those homes that are bought by investors & re-done just to flip them. Look at the surrounding area & the prices. Nothing is priced near as high. If my budget was $800 & up I would never buy one of those homes in that location. Looking to the future that area will not increase in value. The buyers will see that 10+ years down the road into the future. N. Bellmore in the years coming you will be seeing it go downhill. What looks OK to some now..will not be OK several years down the line.

OP if you are buying look South of Sunrise only. Just saying in the future if you have kids (for now at least) south of Sunrise is zoned for the much better HS. I have lived in Bellmore on & off since 1989 & right now would not buy North of Sunrise. Renting is different as you can just up & move if not happy. Buying is more of an investment & you most certainly need to look where are you are buying is headed into the future. If property values for that area go down or you want to move for any reason you will probably owe more $$ than you can sell property for. Just my 2 cents from experience on LI. you always want to buy in an area that does not appear to be going downhill. N. Bellmore most certainly is headed that way. Not today..not tomorrow..but most certainly will be nothing like it is now in the years to come. Would never consider buying a home in N. Bellmore. I know investors that have worked in Bellmore since early 80's. They do many flips in area. They would not personally buy for themselves in N. Bellmore. If they wont..I wont. Now South of Sunrise totally different story.

That being said I have no interest in living anyplace on LI except Bellmore..it is great here.
I was wondering when you'd chime in. What exactly is your beef with North Bellmore? I've driven through there and seen real estate prices online and it's more or less the same as its neighboring towns. The demographics are solid as I posted earlier. The school district is strong. There are some run down houses but they're owner occupied, typically old people, and when they sell and move they get knocked down and a 3000 square foot house springs up in its place.

Areas generally don't just go bad on their own unless you do something stupid like build a housing project or a lot of Section 8 housing ala Glen Cove. It's more typical to see an adjoining bad area start creeping "over the tracks" like how Queens has wrecked Elmont, New Cassel wrecked Westbury, Hempstead wrecked Freeport which is now hurting Baldwin, etc.

On the flip side, I wouldn't buy south of Sunrise due to flooding concerns. I can picture water levels rising faster than North Belmore deteriorating. Just not worth it unless you're waterfront, but then we're talking major cash.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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There's places on LI that have maintained fairly diverse demographics for generations and have still stayed excellent&desirable. Dix Hills, Farmingdale, Deer Park, Roslyn Heights and Greenlawn to name a few..some of these towns are MUCH nicer than anywhere in SE Nassau.
I agree.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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I'm curious to know, what is your opinion on North Merrick? Would you place it in the same boat as North Bellmore? Why or Why not?


North Merrick is still doing well. Merrick Ave shopping is still going strong. Chatterton and Calhoun are good schools. Houses are kept up. Apples/oranges in my opinion. I'd go to N Merrick over N Bellmore any day.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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I was wondering when you'd chime in. What exactly is your beef with North Bellmore? I've driven through there and seen real estate prices online and it's more or less the same as its neighboring towns. The demographics are solid as I posted earlier. The school district is strong. There are some run down houses but they're owner occupied, typically old people, and when they sell and move they get knocked down and a 3000 square foot house springs up in its place.

Areas generally don't just go bad on their own unless you do something stupid like build a housing project or a lot of Section 8 housing ala Glen Cove. It's more typical to see an adjoining bad area start creeping "over the tracks" like how Queens has wrecked Elmont, New Cassel wrecked Westbury, Hempstead wrecked Freeport which is now hurting Baldwin, etc.

On the flip side, I wouldn't buy south of Sunrise due to flooding concerns. I can picture water levels rising faster than North Belmore deteriorating. Just not worth it unless you're waterfront, but then we're talking major cash.
I'll come right out and say it. The mosque went up where the old Friendlys was. The place is barricaded and is an eyesore. Plus the section 8 housing is right next door. Let's not forget the strip joint/nude mud wrestling right across the street, next to regular shopping that families frequent. It's like Pottersville. People got the heck out of there, and values dropped. Bedford Falls Bellmore is south of Sunrise.

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