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Exactly! That poor office could have taken a bullet in order to save the duck!!
Wow, the ignorance of you people is astounding. Cops don't just deal with crime in progress, the deterrence of crime where they do most of the work.
So the main issue here though is high taxes right? I mean if the cops were making their current pay but the property taxes were lower would that be OK? I mean because if that's the case how come no one complains about the school system and the teachers? Truth is that's where most of you property taxes are going right? Maybe we should cut their pay, close schools and cancel school programs. Would that be OK with everyone?
School Taxes
School taxes represent the largest portion of the overall property tax burden (61 percent outside of New
York City) and, as noted above, have generally been increasing more rapidly than municipal property taxes
(counties, cities, towns and villages). The reasons for this are twofold. First, schools consume more public
resources than other types of
local government, accounting
for 48 percent of total local
government expenditures in
2004, and demands upon public
education have been escalating.
Second, property taxes are
the only significant source of
local revenue for most school
districts. A relatively small
number of districts receive sales
tax distributions or impose a
consumer utility tax, and of
course, New York City is an
exception – being funded by
a municipal tax base which
includes personal income, sales
and other taxes.
Wow, the ignorance of you people is astounding. Cops don't just deal with crime in progress, the deterrence of crime where they do most of the work.
So the main issue here though is high taxes right? I mean if the cops were making their current pay but the property taxes were lower would that be OK? I mean because if that's the case how come no one complains about the school system and the teachers? Truth is that's where most of you property taxes are going right? Maybe we should cut their pay, close schools and cancel school programs. Would that be OK with everyone?
School Taxes
School taxes represent the largest portion of the overall property tax burden (61 percent outside of New
York City) and, as noted above, have generally been increasing more rapidly than municipal property taxes
(counties, cities, towns and villages). The reasons for this are twofold. First, schools consume more public
resources than other types of
local government, accounting
for 48 percent of total local
government expenditures in
2004, and demands upon public
education have been escalating.
Second, property taxes are
the only significant source of
local revenue for most school
districts. A relatively small
number of districts receive sales
tax distributions or impose a
consumer utility tax, and of
course, New York City is an
exception – being funded by
a municipal tax base which
includes personal income, sales
and other taxes.
No, just cut teacher comp, leave the schools and programs open.
I can deal with cops on LI making 100K a year. The part that bothers me is that they can retire after 20 years on a pension PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER! SO you can take a 22 year old kid with an associates degree and by the time he is 42 can retire! These guys already have medical/dental for life, unlimited sick days, and a 3 on 4 off schedule! Its time to let them finance their own retirement like the rest of the working world. Offer them a generous 401k with a 100 percent match on the first 15 percent of their salary contributed! Do the same for the teachers. This will save the taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars while still being fair and equitable. Nobody deserves to retire in their mid 40s on the taxpayers dime!
No one except the people brave enough to put their lives on the line everyday for you and Nico you meant right?
Look, if we went by your logic in compensating civil servants, we'd be flat broke and there'd be no jobs around. We can't pay civil servants based on the emotional rationale that the police protect us. So do firefighters.. so do corrections officers (and our armed forces)... but neither group is paid anywhere near the NCPD and SCPD. Even the NYPD, despite finally getting a nice pay increase does not come close to the total compensation given to the NCPD and SCPD. You don't pay jobs based on their value to society. If so, then school bus drivers who are responsible for our kids should be paid more than $15 an hour. Jobs are paid based on the skill set necessary to perform the job adequately. Police work, while valuable to society and necessary, does not require an advanced skill set that many people do not possess. Therefore, the total compensation should not be nearly as high as what it is.
No one except the people brave enough to put their lives on the line everyday for you and Nico you meant right?
Oh I'm sorry but did you mean cops outside long island don't do that ?.... jeez talk about complacency !!
Don't whine about cop salaries guys.... if you want to brag about living in a zone with less crime, you better pay top $$$ to the people who make it safe for you.... different places need different $$$ to give you that feeling.... this also tells you more about the nature of people living around you. Its a price of safety.
I don't have a problem with paying top $$$ to everyone who takes care of your kids and are responsible for their safety and yours.... I'm saying pay everyone top $$$ and pensions and medical benefits.... lets see how many can make a living on long island then.... if we are at it, lets take everyone down with us....
I gladly pay high salaries for police to risk their lives so my family and I don't have to. Why shouldn't a policeman's life skills equate to a high level manager's in salary? These men and women in blue put themselves in danger to protect others and that is a greater sacrifice than most people make every day. If you want to attract the most well qualified people in these jobs then you have to pay to get them.
I gladly pay high salaries for police to risk their lives so my family and I don't have to. Why shouldn't a policeman's life skills equate to a high level manager's in salary? These men and women in blue put themselves in danger to protect others and that is a greater sacrifice than most people make every day. If you want to attract the most well qualified people in these jobs then you have to pay to get them.
Cap it at 90k and you would get the same applicant pool. Again, if you say the police pay might be a bit out of line, you are a jerk who does not value a police officers life, which is not what anybody is saying...just that the compensation structure and benefits costs have not adjusted as these expenses have changed. It is still a public service union, but of course if anybody brings up this issue they do not like cops, appreciate them, and want to see crime rise to unseen levels since we will of course ONLY get former felons to apply for this job if we were to move the retirement service to 25 years in, or 30, like other unions. That is ridiculous...
Wow, the ignorance of you people is astounding. Cops don't just deal with crime in progress, the deterrence of crime where they do most of the work.
So the main issue here though is high taxes right? I mean if the cops were making their current pay but the property taxes were lower would that be OK? I mean because if that's the case how come no one complains about the school system and the teachers? Truth is that's where most of you property taxes are going right? Maybe we should cut their pay, close schools and cancel school programs. Would that be OK with everyone?
School Taxes
School taxes represent the largest portion of the overall property tax burden (61 percent outside of New
York City) and, as noted above, have generally been increasing more rapidly than municipal property taxes
(counties, cities, towns and villages). The reasons for this are twofold. First, schools consume more public
resources than other types of
local government, accounting
for 48 percent of total local
government expenditures in
2004, and demands upon public
education have been escalating.
Second, property taxes are
the only significant source of
local revenue for most school
districts. A relatively small
number of districts receive sales
tax distributions or impose a
consumer utility tax, and of
course, New York City is an
exception – being funded by
a municipal tax base which
includes personal income, sales
and other taxes.
They complain all the time, and the cop defenders tend to be some of the biggest complainers on this board. Newsflash cop lovers ("men and women in blue"..who uses this term other than cop relatives and PBA hacks?)...the PD infrastructure is about one tenth the size of the school system, folks. Yet it doesn't cost 1/10th as much in your tax bill. Cops are much, much more expensive per capita than teachers. Factor in all the traffic tickets, and it's off the chart.
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That is ridiculous...
