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Old 03-14-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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The title says it all. When was arbitration first used in deciding police contracts with the county govenrments? Is there a state law mandating arbitration?

Thanks in advance.

 
Old 03-14-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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Why is arbitration used? Same reason it's used for any labor dispute: To avoid a labor disruption. Even if a strike is not allowed, there are other ways to disrupt service.

I believe it is mandatory in New York.

It's also a last resort and by all appearances, it takes a long time to get to that point. As I understand it (and I'm not involved in it, so this is just what I've pieced together from clicking around), first there has to be an impasse. Then a mediator is brought in. When the mediator fails, that's when the union files for arbitration.

I don't know the specifics of the SCPD situation, but if it fit that pattern, I can see how they didn't have a contract for three years. These things drag on.

My mother went through that when she worked for the water authority, way back in the 70s and 80s. They couldn't strike (and for good reason--what were they going to do, shut off people's water?), so they worked without a contract for a few years.

Thing is, when it gets to that point, the union will say, "Look, we've been working without a contract for this long. Now you owe us for being so patient." Not in so many words, of course, but working without a contract tends to tick union members of all kinds off.

Just my observations.
 
Old 03-14-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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because the powers to be sold out long ago
 
Old 03-14-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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The title says it all. When was arbitration first used in deciding police contracts with the county govenrments? Is there a state law mandating arbitration?

Thanks in advance.
Regardless of what the official excuse is, arbitration came about because the politicians in our so called Democracy did not want to take the heat from either angry unions or a angry public.

Even now, everytime the Nassau and Suffolk Cops get yet another raise, our elected officials tell us not to blame them but to blame arbitration. Well if arbitration is the problem why don't any of our elected officials try to get rid it?

Its time we start electing LEADERS who have the courage to stand up for the people and not just special interests.

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Old 03-14-2010, 06:03 PM
 
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Regardless is what the official excuse is.
indeed it is
 
Old 03-14-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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indeed it is
Why thank you.
 
Old 03-14-2010, 07:08 PM
 
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Binding arbitration is a scam, especially since the arbitrators use the ability of the county to pay as a guide for awarding contracts.
 
Old 03-14-2010, 09:19 PM
 
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Regardless of what the official excuse is, arbitration came about because the politicians in our so called Democracy did not want to take the heat from either angry unions or a angry public.

Even now, everytime the Nassau and Suffolk Cops get yet another raise, our elected officials tell us not to blame them but to blame arbitration. Well if arbitration is the problem why don't any of our elected officials try to get rid it?
Ah ha! And if you don't like what your elected officials do, you ________.
 
Old 03-14-2010, 09:35 PM
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Doesn't it have something to do with The Taylor Law ?
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:29 PM
 
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Doesn't it have something to do with The Taylor Law ?


read more here Taylor Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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