The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Carson: rent, vouchers, camps)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by expatCA

And what is LA actually doing about it that is reducing the number of homeless? Nothing that is reducing the number, as it is growing beyond the number of the few being helped. Oh, they are taking a lot of money and paying friends to study the problem.

This bullcrap you and so many others keep spouting is tiresome, at the least. The reality that the numbers are growing - as they certainly are - does not mean “nothing is being done” and / or “all the millions are being purloined / wasted”.

There’s more than “a few being helped”.

The problem is the underlying causes are increasing the homeless population faster than services can keep up.

The problem isn’t simply LA. The problem is endemic to our entire culture and economy. The cities, such as LA, that experience the worst are choking on their own successes ... which feeds the displacements of marginalized population segments. Until the macro-economics of capitalism are “re-cultured” to what Andrew Yang has smartly termed “human-centered capitalism”, this disaster of homelessness will continue to grow beyond control. It’s not simply “LA’s failure”.

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by expatCA

And what is LA actually doing about it that is reducing the number of homeless? Nothing that is reducing the number, as it is growing beyond the number of the few being helped. Oh, they are taking a lot of money and paying friends to study the problem.

People here prefer to be abrasive, post articles (excuses) ans be apologists for the politicians, for what, I don't know. The fact that you and I see is the city isn't helping the situation. I see it everyday, and it's only getting worse.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by max210

People here prefer to be abrasive, post articles (excuses) ans be apologists for the politicians, for what, I don't know. The fact that you and I see is the city isn't helping the situation. I see it everyday, and it's only getting worse.

It’s in all our faces everyday. And it is getting worse. And providing factual insight that identifies how complex the problem is and how universal it is - is not “apologizing for politicians”. So many posting in these homeless threads are sure the problems are simple and can be all “solved” with a good swift kick in the homeless’ pants. Absurdly ignorant.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

...providing factual insight that identifies how complex the problem is and how universal it is - is not “apologizing for politicians”. So many posting in these homeless threads are sure the problems are simple and can be all “solved” with a good swift kick in the homeless’ pants. Absurdly ignorant.

Now, Mutt, your "abrasive" post is offending me.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Now, Mutt, your "abrasive" post is offending me.

My bad, eh

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

'Cause under Obama, there was no such wait list for section 8 housing. Riiiiiiiiight.

You're usually sharper than that.

I didn't say that, did I? I said that if Trump really wants to do something about homelessness rather than just bloviate about it maybe he could do something to get more housing vouchers. Only you and your ilk could figure a way to bring Obama into that

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Maybe Trump should do something about the 4.2 million families who are on waiting lists for section 8 housing? Trump just wants to F with California, even if you like Trump you should be able to see this for what it is.

LOL... He is. He's building a wall to keep all the uneducated illegals from coming in and living 14 in cheap housing. Maybe freeing up some houses for those sec 8.

[Genghis]

Originally Posted by Rakin

LOL... He is. He's building a wall to keep all the uneducated illegals from coming in and living 14 in cheap housing. Maybe freeing up some houses for those sec 8.

Yeah right. The wall will never be fully built, and besides most illegals now coming across the border simply turn themselves into the authorities because they know the vast majority of them won't be sent back. The family separation policy didn't put a dent in the number coming over, and if it's decreasing at this moment it's only because during the hottest season fewer people come over.

Seriously, if you think that Trump will do anything to help the homeless situation in California then you've fallen for the world's most obvious scam. California went 2 to 1 for Clinton, so all he's going to do is have himself on the news visiting California and making statements about how he's going to solve homelessness, to cater to his base. Meanwhile, buried in the back of the news stories is the fact that he just raised millions in fundraisers from rich conservatives in California. This was the actual reason he made his trip to California.

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"Shawn Pleasants has the kind of resume that would attract the attention of any job recruiter: high school valedictorian, economics major from Yale University, Wall Street banking jobs, small business entrepreneur. But a few wrong turns in life 10 years ago left him homeless, and today he's living underneath a tarp in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles.

He's been told before that a smart and capable person like him should not be in this situation.
"But I'm like, should anybody be here? Who should, then?" Pleasants said.

Pleasants' story is a reminder of how complex the problem of homelessness can be. "It means it can happen to anybody. It's a problem we all could face..."

He was a Yale graduate, Wall Street banker and entrepreneur. Today he's homeless in Los Angeles:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/lo...ess/index.html

He chooses to be on the streets. He has family in San Antonio and a home there where he could get on his feet and get a job.

Hard to feel sorry for this guy when he has chosen this path and he has better options.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Rakin

He chooses to be on the streets. He has family in San Antonio and a home there where he could get on his feet and get a job.

Hard to feel sorry for this guy when he has chosen this path and he has better options.

Myth #1: Homeless people prefer living on the streets

It sounds crazy, but we hear this all the time from people who don’t know any better. The truth is this: People living on the streets want to live in stable housing. Nobody enjoys sleeping on a sidewalk.

https://everyoneinla.org/three-myths-homelessness-la/

Steve Saad, who has camped out in the Sepulveda Basin for eight years, had to find a new place to sleep last week after fire raged through his campsite. I asked if he’d prefer living in a shelter to being homeless, if a bed were available, and he said no. Some of those places have too many rules about coming and going, he said, and some of them separate couples.

In downtown Los Angeles, a man who lives in a tent pitched near the 101 Freeway agreed with that assessment. There was no way he’d move into a shelter, said the man, who identified himself only as Harvey. They’re full of disease, and he feels safer in a tent, he said.

At Echo Park Lake, military veteran Shane Isaacson said it was an interesting idea, but he would rather continue living in his Jeep with his dog, Bear, than move into a shelter...

Would forcing homeless people to move inside and off the streets work?:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...sing-steinberg