The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Lancaster, Palmdale: hybrid, condo, homes)

[American_Renaissance]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It would have been nice if you had bothered to research the issue. If you had, you might have found that:
1. If people could just stop being homeless they would have already done that
2. Forced labor is unconstitutional you cannot require people to pluck chickens just because they are homeless, get real.
3. Being homeless is not a crime per the Supreme Court of the United States.

1. They don't want to. My suggestion is to force them not to be. Either make vagrancy illegal or acknowledge vagrancy is acceptable and not a problem.
2. Forced labor is perfectly legal for prison inmates via the 13th Amendment. That's the ONLY forced labor suggested in my post.
3. Then there is no problem. Close the thread.

[Hedonism]

Originally Posted by American_Renaissance

1. They don't want to. My suggestion is to force them not to be. Either make vagrancy illegal or acknowledge vagrancy is acceptable and not a problem.
2. Forced labor is perfectly legal for prison inmates via the 13th Amendment. That's the ONLY forced labor suggested in my post.
3. Then there is no problem. Close the thread.

You are right.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by American_Renaissance

1. They don't want to. My suggestion is to force them not to be. Either make vagrancy illegal or acknowledge vagrancy is acceptable and not a problem.
2. Forced labor is perfectly legal for prison inmates via the 13th Amendment. That's the ONLY forced labor suggested in my post.
3. Then there is no problem. Close the thread.

1.You can't make vagrancy illegal because vagrancy laws are unconstitutional https://www.jstor.org/stable/1227647?seq=1
2. We are talking about homeless people not prison inmates ..sheesh
3. If this is the best you can do, then I agree- close the thread

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Hedonism

You are right.

Then please tell us what he is right about and maybe you could back that up with something?

[self-made]

Originally Posted by American_Renaissance

1. They don't want to. My suggestion is to force them not to be. Either make vagrancy illegal or acknowledge vagrancy is acceptable and not a problem.
2. Forced labor is perfectly legal for prison inmates via the 13th Amendment. That's the ONLY forced labor suggested in my post.
3. Then there is no problem. Close the thread.

Bravo!

[RationalExpectations]

Not all problems have solutions.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CALGUY

Will someone explain to me what is wrong with building lagre camps out in the desert to house these people?
These camps would have full time staff to attend to all the homeless people's needs.

There would be medical facilities, mental health counseling, Sources for education, job counseling. and most of all, a roof over their head.

The money is there, it was voted on, so instead of the money going into politicians pockets, let's use it as it was designed to do.
This business of moving them from one riverbed location to another one, has got to stop.


Bob.

You can build them, you just can't force people to stay in them.

[American_Renaissance]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

1.You can't make vagrancy illegal because vagrancy laws are unconstitutional https://www.jstor.org/stable/1227647?seq=1
2. We are talking about homeless people not prison inmates ..sheesh
3. If this is the best you can do, then I agree- close the thread

1. EIther change the constitution or if we can't bust them for vagrancy, we'll find something else to bust them for. 99.999% of vagrants are guilty of something: illegal camping, possession of stolen goods, panhandling, possession of drugs, public drunkenness, public urination, littering, health code violations, ....
2. If we bust them then they are prison population. Otherwise, they are either volunteering to improve their lives OR they've stopping being vagrants.
3. Do YOU have a better suggestion?

[American_Renaissance]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

Not all problems have solutions.

That's true, but this problem has a solution and I just provided it.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by American_Renaissance

1. EIther change the constitution or if we can't bust them for vagrancy, we'll find something else to bust them for. 99.999% of vagrants are guilty of something: illegal camping, possession of stolen goods, panhandling, possession of drugs, public drunkenness, public urination, littering, health code violations, ....
2. If we bust them then they are prison population. Otherwise, they are either volunteering to improve their lives OR they've stopping being vagrants.
3. Do YOU have a better suggestion?

Change the constitution? What's my solution? My solution is not to waste time debating someone who post silly stuff.