The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Francisco, Santa Ana: rental, house, camping)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Calm down Adolph.

We're not quite a police state yet, where you can just cart people off like Nazi Germany.

Let's not make this into a political thread, because it's not a political issue. Five families lost their homes due to the Skirball fire, so I fail to see how it's just not good sense to do something to thwart this problem so that even more residents don't lose their homes due to illegal activity.

[takuriver]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Interesting that in New York City (which has a larger homeless population than Los Angeles), 95% of its homeless are sheltered, whereas it's 25% of our homeless population. We're obviously doing something wrong.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...462449073.html

New York City is notorious for relocating homeless to different cities. The use bus, train and airplane.

Until you have a "cure" for addiction, you'll always have homeless. It's just a shell game.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by takuriver

New York City is notorious for relocating homeless to different cities. The use bus, train and airplane.

Doesn't sound like it.

With the number of homeless people in New York City reaching an all-time high, Mayor Bill de Blasio unveiled a five-year plan in February (2017) to reduce homelessness and provide better services by opening 90 new shelters and expanding 30 existing ones.

New Homeless Shelters Are Coming to New York City: Which Neighborhoods Are Likely to Get Them?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...lter-maps.html

[BlinkingBlythe]

Originally Posted by cwarmy

L.A. is setting itself up to be the #1 homeless destination in the country.

Oh, yes, the homeless are lepers. It's just like getting labeled a sex offender only worse: once you get labeled "homeless", you are now this icky, subhuman, contaminated, mentally deficient creature that is lower than a dog. In society's twisted mind, 100% of all homeless people are mentally ill, drug crazed, alcoholic and dirty criminals. No, they are not somebody's mother or father, brother or sister,, aunt or uncle, they are now part of this gross scary monolithic blob that threatens to roll through all of the newly stol--er--"gentrified" neighborhoods, and make you spit out your $8 latee, or upchuck your $25 plate of hummus and 2 lettuce leaves and turn LA and every other major city into another Gary, Indiana or Camden, New Jersey!

[Xanathos]

I think we probably need to keep our homeless situation in context. Yes, it's bad - but I can tell you unequivocally we're light years better off in this regard than San Francisco or Seattle is.

I mostly just appreciate the irony-slash-synergy that the best course of action with these camps is to burn them to the ground, and they're already fire hazards.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Let's not make this into a political thread, because it's not a political issue. Five families lost their homes due to the Skirball fire, so I fail to see how it's just not good sense to do something to thwart this problem so that even more residents don't lose their homes due to illegal activity.

You don't send people against their will into camps, it's not a political issue.

What's next? Elderly people, disabled people?

Someone makes comments about rounding up people and sending them to camps against their will, you bet I am going to say something.

You better start doing some research on how some of these fires are started. Take a look at the Santa Rosa fire, the trees didn't burn.....put on your thinking cap.

[CALGUY]

Will someone explain to me what is wrong with building lagre camps out in the desert to house these people?
These camps would have full time staff to attend to all the homeless people's needs.

There would be medical facilities, mental health counseling, Sources for education, job counseling. and most of all, a roof over their head.

The money is there, it was voted on, so instead of the money going into politicians pockets, let's use it as it was designed to do.
This business of moving them from one riverbed location to another one, has got to stop.


Bob.

[TCROX]

Vagrants and criminals go into camps! Now!
Yep its entirely political and social
Clean up our streets and reform those that want it
Otherwise you are going to go somewhere away from innocent people like taxpayers NOW!

[jm1982]

Bob,

This is too practical an idea for L.A

We must build housing in the city center that costs $350,000 or more per unit .

I mean the "affordable housing" developers need to make a fortune too . They've donated very generous sums . Along with the unions .

[CALGUY]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Bob,

This is too practical an idea for L.A

We must build housing in the city center that costs $350,000 or more per unit .

I mean the "affordable housing" developers need to make a fortune too . They've donated very generous sums . Along with the unions .

I believe you have found the source of the problem.

Bob.