The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (nursing home, reviews, seniors)

[jm1982]

Was just in hipster Los Feliz /East Hollywood area saw a bunch of homeless tents on street taking up the whole sidewalk .

On Hillhurst Ave/Hollywood Blvd .

The big big tents too so nobody can walk on the sidewalk .. . Who knows what kind of stuff going on in those tents .

Good job Eric !

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Was just in hipster Los Feliz /East Hollywood area saw a bunch of homeless tents on street taking up the whole sidewalk .

On Hillhurst Ave/Hollywood Blvd .

The big big tents too so nobody can walk on the sidewalk .. . Who knows what kind of stuff going on in those tents .

Good job Eric !

I was just there today too and saw tents right on the sidewalk. How can anyone think that’s acceptable?

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I was just there today too and saw tents right on the sidewalk. How can anyone think that’s acceptable?

Right, what are people supposed to do ? Just walk in the street ?
What if they are in a wheelchair ? Or with kids in a stroller ?

It’s not like it’s in the middle of nowhere . It’s one of the busiest parts of the city..

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Right, what are people supposed to do ? Just walk in the street ?
What if they are in a wheelchair ? Or with kids in a stroller ?

It’s not like it’s in the middle of nowhere . It’s one of the busiest parts of the city..

Camping on public property should result in a charge. But “ homelessness is not a crime” so all of their crimes are tolerated by the regressives in charge.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Camping on public property should result in a charge. But “ homelessness is not a crime” so all of their crimes are tolerated by the regressive's in charge.

Homelessness is not a crime IMO. However setting up living quarters on public property is a crime in CA. The problem is the laws are not enforced.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Homelessness is not a crime IMO. However setting up living quarters on public property is a crime in CA. The problem is the laws are not enforced.

Yeah it’s a high traffic area . I’m sure a ton of cops and other officials drove by and did nothing .

They weren’t the one person tents they were like 4 person or more big tents .

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Where will you take a shower? Where will you use the bathroom or keep food?
Do you have any family or friends that can lend you a temporary fix? Distant cousins, grown nephews or nieces? Do you have any life long friends that can lend you a helping hand?

I'm not buying anyplace that doesn't already have a well or can't be connected to water. With an above ground faucet and hose, I can bathe, have water to drink and cook with, wash my hair, and start a garden. With luck, I can contract to the owners of Port-a-Potties and rent one that will be replaced when necessary.

I've always had a camp stove and used that for cooking. There's milk that can be bought that doesn't need to be refrigerated. Most food will be canned food. What few things need refrigeration can be put in a cooler for a couple days and the perishables I would get would be eaten the same day. If I'm on my own property, I might be able to dig a sunken cellar against a hillside, or rather, hire someone do dig it, since I won't be able to do that myself.

This isn't some problem I've gotten myself into, so there's no need to bother anyone else. This is something I'm electing to do. I have enough money to buy a home in a mobile home park or a small condo somewhere. What I want is a half acre that I can fence off, get another dog, have a small garden, and a house of my own, and I'm willing to go through some discomfort in getting it. I'll end up spending about as much as anyone would for a home and yard. The only difference is, I'm saving and spending, then saving and spending again and doing it piece at a time because I can't afford to buy the whole thing at one go. But when I'm done, I'll own my land and home outright and only owe on the taxes. That alone would be worth it.

Originally Posted by Matadora

Yes I agree and I actually mentioned this in response to you trying to claim that homelessness can happen lickety split overnight.

The problem is, few people recognize a cascading event and even if they do, fewer people plan for them. Look at all the disasters that happen that in hindsight were obvious in coming, like the Great Recession. How many people predicted that, though, and how many planned for it? It's that last thing happening that makes an inevitable event happen suddenly and with no warning.

It's never a wise decision to listen to what others think you should do with your money...especially for a huge decision such as buying a house..it's clear the bad choice occurred before you bought that house.

When? Not in the time I'd been in Washington. I had a full time job where I worked 3 days a week and made more money than I'd ever made before. And moving to Washington was a decision I made after my landlord in California decided to raise my rent from $450 to $800, which I couldn't afford. I did what everyone tells people to do: I moved to a cheaper place to live, after transferring my job and finding a place to live up here.

My decision to rent from that particular landlord was based on the cheapest rent I could find in San Jose at the time. Before that, I rented a room in a friend's house and the decision to leave there was because her boyfriend got out of jail, moved in with her, and was into drugs. And the reason for moving into her house in the first place was so I didn't have to live in my truck anymore.

So how far back and which decision do you want to criticize as being a bad one?

Many of these vets don't want help.

Just like many alcoholics and drug abusers. But they need help, just the same.

Originally Posted by jm1982

A homeless person did this

Man killed in random knife attack as he held 5-year-old in his lap at seaside Ventura steakhouse

https://www.dailynews.com/2018/04/21...ra-steakhouse/

I guess we should be glad the killer wasn't a football fan. We'd have to round up everyone who walked into a stadium to watch the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by Matadora

Homelessness is not a crime IMO. However setting up living quarters on public property is a crime in CA. The problem is the laws are not enforced.

Enforce how? By arresting everyone, we're back to jailing all those people again and giving them medical care, food, and a place to sleep for the night. For all you know, some of the homeless would prefer it that way. And in the end, the city is still spending taxpayers' money on giving the homeless somewhere to go and something to eat.

There's got to be a better solution.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

I'm not buying anyplace that doesn't already have a well or can't be connected to water. With an above ground faucet and hose, I can bathe, have water to drink and cook with, wash my hair, and start a garden. With luck, I can contract to the owners of Port-a-Potties and rent one that will be replaced when necessary.

I've always had a camp stove and used that for cooking. There's milk that can be bought that doesn't need to be refrigerated. Most food will be canned food. What few things need refrigeration can be put in a cooler for a couple days and the perishables I would get would be eaten the same day. If I'm on my own property, I might be able to dig a sunken cellar against a hillside, or rather, hire someone do dig it, since I won't be able to do that myself.

This isn't some problem I've gotten myself into, so there's no need to bother anyone else. This is something I'm electing to do. I have enough money to buy a home in a mobile home park or a small condo somewhere. What I want is a half acre that I can fence off, get another dog, have a small garden, and a house of my own, and I'm willing to go through some discomfort in getting it. I'll end up spending about as much as anyone would for a home and yard. The only difference is, I'm saving and spending, then saving and spending again and doing it piece at a time because I can't afford to buy the whole thing at one go. But when I'm done, I'll own my land and home outright and only owe on the taxes. That alone would be worth it.

Do you have any family or friends that can lend you a temporary fix? Distant cousins, grown nephews or nieces? Do you have any life long friends that can lend you a helping hand so you won't have to live in your car?

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

When?

The moment you listened to those telling you what you should do with your money and encouraging you to buy a house.

It's what everyone said was the pinnacle of success in this country. Who doesn't buy a house when they can? Everyone told me it's an investment, everyone urged me to go ahead.

[pittsflyer]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Homelessness is not a crime IMO. However setting up living quarters on public property is a crime in CA. The problem is the laws are not enforced.

Being homeless and needing to sleep somewhere is synonomus, there have been legal arguments at the federal level that sleeping is a human right and homeless people have no choice but to sleep on public lands.

I am hoping that federal law will trump state laws and stop the purposeful catch 22 shenanigans.

Sure its ok to be homeless so long as you go do it in the wilderness and just die ....

[pittsflyer]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

I'm not buying anyplace that doesn't already have a well or can't be connected to water. With an above ground faucet and hose, I can bathe, have water to drink and cook with, wash my hair, and start a garden. With luck, I can contract to the owners of Port-a-Potties and rent one that will be replaced when necessary.

I've always had a camp stove and used that for cooking. There's milk that can be bought that doesn't need to be refrigerated. Most food will be canned food. What few things need refrigeration can be put in a cooler for a couple days and the perishables I would get would be eaten the same day. If I'm on my own property, I might be able to dig a sunken cellar against a hillside, or rather, hire someone do dig it, since I won't be able to do that myself.

This isn't some problem I've gotten myself into, so there's no need to bother anyone else. This is something I'm electing to do. I have enough money to buy a home in a mobile home park or a small condo somewhere. What I want is a half acre that I can fence off, get another dog, have a small garden, and a house of my own, and I'm willing to go through some discomfort in getting it. I'll end up spending about as much as anyone would for a home and yard. The only difference is, I'm saving and spending, then saving and spending again and doing it piece at a time because I can't afford to buy the whole thing at one go. But when I'm done, I'll own my land and home outright and only owe on the taxes. That alone would be worth it.



The problem is, few people recognize a cascading event and even if they do, fewer people plan for them. Look at all the disasters that happen that in hindsight were obvious in coming, like the Great Recession. How many people predicted that, though, and how many planned for it? It's that last thing happening that makes an inevitable event happen suddenly and with no warning.

When? Not in the time I'd been in Washington. I had a full time job where I worked 3 days a week and made more money than I'd ever made before. And moving to Washington was a decision I made after my landlord in California decided to raise my rent from $450 to $800, which I couldn't afford. I did what everyone tells people to do: I moved to a cheaper place to live, after transferring my job and finding a place to live up here.

My decision to rent from that particular landlord was based on the cheapest rent I could find in San Jose at the time. Before that, I rented a room in a friend's house and the decision to leave there was because her boyfriend got out of jail, moved in with her, and was into drugs. And the reason for moving into her house in the first place was so I didn't have to live in my truck anymore.

So how far back and which decision do you want to criticize as being a bad one?

Just like many alcoholics and drug abusers. But they need help, just the same.




I guess we should be glad the killer wasn't a football fan. We'd have to round up everyone who walked into a stadium to watch the Super Bowl.



Enforce how? By arresting everyone, we're back to jailing all those people again and giving them medical care, food, and a place to sleep for the night. For all you know, some of the homeless would prefer it that way. And in the end, the city is still spending taxpayers' money on giving the homeless somewhere to go and something to eat.

There's got to be a better solution.

Most people just want them to go away, out of sight out of mind, NIMBY alive and well. Because .... I got a masters degree. I bet there are homeless with masters degrees too, perhaps not living in a tent in central park looking like a disheveled lunatic but homeless all the same, bouncing from couch to couch using library internet, etc. There are a lot of people living out of vans or making a go of tiny home living, all kinds of stuff because finding a good job is a hellish nightmare and COL is so completely out of control people are doing desperate things to find alternatives.