09-14-2007, 04:59 PM
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Wow! You guys are awesome! The recruiting manager called me this afternoon and told me he would personally drive me around Ashland & Southboro. I agree with NY'er's opinion on schools. I was raised in a podunk farming town southeast of Montreal and made it through grad school at BU and MIT (although I never spent time in the burbs). My wife and I believe that the family and community raise the child, not tutors focussed on test scores.
09-14-2007, 05:00 PM
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LOL .... There's a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods on Middlesex Turnpike next to the Burlingon Mall in Burlington.
09-14-2007, 05:06 PM
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I take back some of what I said. My wife is still curious about Newburyport. One of the people I will be working with lives there and says he drives in (6:30am) and it takes 40-45 minutes. Does anyone have info on that area? My wife thinks it's beautiful (and her best friend conveniently lives in Hampton, NH).
09-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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Swiftcreek-I live in Southborough and love it. I think we have a great location. Close to all of the shopping in Natick and Framingham, as well as Westborough, but not too close. It takes me about 15 minutes to get to the Trader Joes. I'm over by the Commuter rail station, just to give you an idea of timing. There are no bad neighborhoods. Some are older with smaller homes, some are full of mega-mansions. It depends on your price range. As far as developments go, I like Liberty Estates & Woodbury Estates, but there isn't anything for sale there right now. Homes there typicall run from the high 600's to maybe the mid to uper 800's. Shipper Farms is nice, and a lot of the real estate homes are located off Sears Road or East Main St.
09-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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I take back some of what I said. My wife is still curious about Newburyport. One of the people I will be working with lives there and says he drives in (6:30am) and it takes 40-45 minutes. Does anyone have info on that area? My wife thinks it's beautiful (and her best friend conveniently lives in Hampton, NH).
I don't know a lot of detail about that area, but I do know Newburyport has a reputation as a really nice town. From the little I do know of that area, the one concern I might raise would be commuting time, given what you listed as your preferred time. It depends on the time of day you would usually be commuting, and where you'd be commuting to, such as whether you would always be driving into downtown Boston or would be meeting clients at different places around the metro area. That commute that runs 40-45 minutes at 0630 is going to jump dramatically in the time it takes if you're looking at leaving an hour or hour and a half later.
09-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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I love Newburyport, and we even looked up there before settling on Southborough. The trouble we had with it was that it seemed so hard to get in and out of there, and it was a bit of a drive to any major shopping or dining centers.
09-14-2007, 07:37 PM
Location: Cary, NC
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I spent 2 days in Newburyport this week and it was hard trying to look outside the area. The town is definitely a destination town. However, I enjoy coaching 2 soccer teams and if i'm stuck driving 1+ hours each way, I know i'll have to kiss that activity goodbye. My wife kept asking where the shopping was (when we were in NBPT) and we were told it was in Peabody or Seabrook, NH. It sounds like the consensus is that NBPT is beautiful, but the commute would be a challenge. My office is in the financial district which makes any commuter rail into south station much more appealing too. I'll have to share these postings with my wife this weekend.
09-14-2007, 07:43 PM
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One suggestion: the new Natick Mall....
But sure...nothing like Paramus shopping....
09-14-2007, 08:37 PM
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lets be realistic
Ok- we moved to Ashland from Salem, MA.
Let me give full detail on the commute to and from the North Shore
Swift ...
I too work very close to the Financial District in the Seaport District at times and also work on the road visiting clients.
I would leave Salem (26 miles from downtown) at 7:15am and get in right at 9am. 95 and 93 are HORRIBLE. The entire state of New Hampshire commutes in on 93. Bumper to bumper- the whole way- everyday.
Some days I would be out visiting clients and be able to break away early and head north around 2:30-3pm. Guess what?
Traffic! 40-45 minutes to get back to Salem. Ridiculous. And just a tip- NEVER try heading north on 93 at 5-6pm...
Ok...so that is Salem. Well...Newburyport is 45 miles north of downtown. And guess what roads you will have to take in and out of the city? Drum roll.....
95 and 93- the death traps! Oh and not to be a punk, but your colleague that supposedly gets in in 40-45 minutes.....how fast is he driving? Downtown in 45-46 miles from Newburyport. Care to change your answer
Being totally honest- that commute is going to be a minimum of 1.5 hours each way. With accidents and the frequent road work, you're looking at 2 hours easily.
The one point I will agree on is that the town is beautiful. But with your observation that it is a 'destination' town, comes alot of tourism. And that means traffic and yahoos during the summer.
The North Shore also has a complete lack of good shopping. The malls in Peabody are decent, but not great- they are 10 minutes apart from one another.
The other day I left my house at 7:30am (Ashland), went through the drive through at Dunkies, on the Pike at around 7:45am. Thick traffic all the way into the city with it backed up a little at the tolls at the 95 junction. Either way- the traffic is moving at about 45-50mph...so steadily along. I got into the Seaport District which is farther than where you would be going at 8:35am.
Commutes- hands down...Metrowest is much better.
Swifty- I'd be happy to tour you around and show you some of the highlights of the area.
Also- there is a Starbucks and Dunkies right up the road, a Quiznos, Cold Stone Creamery, and a 4-5 star Tuscan restaurant. (Southborough)
We live right on the Southborough border BTW..
09-14-2007, 08:47 PM
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I've seen some 50k price reductions in Southborough too. When we were looking a year and a half ago, Newburyport was just a tad cheaper than Southborough for comparable houses. As you got closer to the water the prices went up a lot. Like I said, we loved Newburyport, but it felt so remote, even though milage wise it may not be. We have gone up there in the winter, and it was soooo quiet.
Right now there are some nice homes in Southborough in the high 600's that maybe would have been $750 a year ago. Be mindfull that Southborough has several "through" roads that run through it. I personally would not want to live on one. I prefer a more neighborhood setting. Sometimes you see nice new construction that seems well priced, only to find out that it sits on a through street. The traffic isn't heavy per se, but if you have kids, I wouldn't like it. It might be tough to find something in Southborough for under 500k, but not impossible. It all depends on your comfort level, but we stretched a bit to buy a nice home here, and we are glad we did. BTW, the new Natick Mall is beautifull. We are only about 7 miles away. I'm a Southern California girl at heart, and I love my malls
p.s NY'er, we must be neighbors. I live on the Ashland line. We go to the Starbucks all the time!
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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lets be realistic
Being totally honest- that commute is going to be a minimum of 1.5 hours each way. With accidents and the frequent road work, you're looking at 2 hours easily. 
