02-14-2024, 07:50 AM
Location: Providence, RI
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Lost in all of this is the fact that Mac seems to just be "not a nice guy". He's known around the league for dirty plays, beyond his own prima donna image in the Pats' locker room. Seems like quite an ego for a guy who hasn't done much in the league. Zappe seems much more humble and in the mold of the "Patriots' Way".
I've seen several reports that he wasn't widely liked or respected in the locker room. Having an attitude and an ego is not great no matter what, but it's even worse when you're not backing it up with good performance on the field. To me, the bold seemed to be on display when he was under center. He was not more talented, but the players seemed to perform better with him at QB.
02-14-2024, 09:22 AM
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Lost in all of this is the fact that Mac seems to just be "not a nice guy". He's known around the league for dirty plays, beyond his own prima donna image in the Pats' locker room. Seems like quite an ego for a guy who hasn't done much in the league. Zappe seems much more humble and in the mold of the "Patriots' Way".
I don't have that impression. Yes, I know there have been some reports from inside the Pats locker room - but I've seen multiple Patriots beat reporters comment on it and say they haven't heard that, so it could be one or two players badmouthing Mac.
At least publicly - where we're not reading the tea leaves, I saw Zappe asked multiple times on camera if he supported Mac when Mac was on the field, and he never said "Yes", he just dodged the question each time. That is *not* a team player, that is a pure rival.
My impression based on comments from coach Mayo, has been that there is some division in the locker room, and some players were aligned with Mac, and some with Zappe.
02-14-2024, 09:43 AM
Location: Providence, RI
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I don't have that impression. Yes, I know there have been some reports from inside the Pats locker room - but I've seen multiple Patriots beat reporters comment on it and say they haven't heard that, so it could be one or two players badmouthing Mac.
Seems like there was a general
offense vs. defense divid e as well (Globe paywall). Understandable considering the difference in production the past couple of seasons. Regardless of what the situation
actually was, any divide in the locker room spells trouble. Even if it's not entirely Mac's fault, he's the default target number 1 when it comes time to make changes simply because of the starting QB's role and significance.
I'm not sure how much (if anything) to believe from the reports about Mac's attitude and likeability. I didn't love what I saw on the sideline and I'm fully aware I have a bias against him, so I'm inclined to believe that he wasn't exceedingly popular. But I don't have any actual insight and either way, it seems like the best scenario of everyone involved is for Mac to have a change of scenery.
02-14-2024, 12:49 PM
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Seems like there was a general
offense vs. defense divid e as well (Globe paywall). Understandable considering the difference in production the past couple of seasons. Regardless of what the situation
actually was, any divide in the locker room spells trouble. Even if it's not entirely Mac's fault, he's the default target number 1 when it comes time to make changes simply because of the starting QB's role and significance.
I'm not sure how much (if anything) to believe from the reports about Mac's attitude and likeability. I didn't love what I saw on the sideline and I'm fully aware I have a bias against him, so I'm inclined to believe that he wasn't exceedingly popular. But I don't have any actual insight and either way, it seems like the best scenario of everyone involved is for Mac to have a change of scenery.
I am a lot more sympathetic to Mac. However, I realize that many if not most players had lost confidence in him last season, plus, he appeared to have a kind of PTSD here from being run over by free pass rushers too many times. So I agree that it's best for all for him to get a new start somewhere else. Hopefully the Pats will get someone with the raw material to be a great QB in the '24 draft, and develop him properly too.
02-14-2024, 01:11 PM
Location: Providence, RI
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I am a lot more sympathetic to Mac. However, I realize that many if not most players had lost confidence in him last season, plus, he appeared to have a kind of PTSD here from being run over by free pass rushers too many times. So I agree that it's best for all for him to get a new start somewhere else. Hopefully the Pats will get someone with the raw material to be a great QB in the '24 draft, and develop him properly too.
Agreed. It seems like Mayo is aiming to be a player's coach, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
I'm of the mind that, in the long run, the sting of Belichick's last few years here will become something of an afterthought and the focus will be on the 2 decades of success. But if Mac goes somewhere else and has a long, successful NFL career (let alone a championship run), I think it may leave lingering stain on Bill's legacy.
02-24-2024, 07:46 PM
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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And Belichick himself is gonna "advise" the Nebraska football team this spring. Wonder why that didn't make bigger headlines.
03-10-2024, 09:49 AM
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I still think lrfox’s kidneys are in jeopardy. Mac Jones is the likely week 1 starting quarterback since it’s now such a short preseason. It’s unlikely a rookie quarterback in a brand new offensive system will be ready to go.
My kidneys might be safe after all:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-jones-jaguars
03-10-2024, 05:33 PM
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Yes, Mac is reportedly bound for Jacksonville - I'll wish him well. I don't know if they're planning on keeping Zappe, but I do hope they draft a QB in round 1 of the draft next month!
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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