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Old 08-12-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: beverly hills, ca.
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...what the hell is wrong with the cowards in michigan who are allowing these arabs to come here and threaten, intimidate and harass anyone they wish?

Police enforce sharia in Dearborn, non-Muslims arrested at Arab fest (update)

Posted on June 19, 2010

As we pointed out here, ‘Appeals courts prevents sharia law at Arab-fest, theoretically‘, our theory was correct. Muslims don’t abide by American laws or the Constitution. They abide only by their own laws, primarily Islamic sharia law. On public streets, at a public event, blatant Christian-phobia and profiling by Muslim thugs enforcing sharia law on non-Muslims. Right here in the USA. It will get much worse unless and until good Americans stand up, speak up, and fight back.

via Answering Muslims: Acts 17 In Dearborn City Jail. (check the link for their for Acts 17′s updates)

Yes, you heard it here first, folks. David and I, along with Negeen and Paul Rezkalla, were arrested and spent last night in jail. It is a long story which we will elaborate in full detail when we can, and we will post footage when the police give us back our cameras.
But to take the edge off your curiosity, here are some basics: Paul, David, Negeen, and I went to the festival to see and comment on the situation. Thankfully, we recorded every second of our activity at the festival. At one point, we came across a festival volunteer who seemed to take issue with us simply being at the festival. We could tell he had a problem with us, and so we asked “What are we doing wrong?” He said “Put the camera and microphone down, and I’ll tell you.” (By the way, there was more to this conversation, but when you see the footage, I think you’ll see I’m being fair in my summary.) So I obliged, handing the microphone to David and asking him to not record the man. I then approached him and said “No camera, no mic, tell me what we’re doing wrong”, he said “Get away from me!” (or something to that effect). Again, I obliged, and walked away.
About 20 minutes later, to shouts and cheers of “Allahu Akbar!” we were all being led away from the festival in handcuffs. From the brief description we were given by the police of why we were being arrested, it sounds like the festival volunteer said we surrounded him and didn’t give him an opportunity to leave, thereby “breaching the peace.” This is as blatantly false as an accusation can get.

Last year, security lied about us and we got kicked out of the festival. We had it all on tape, so we were able to vindicate ourselves. This year, a volunteer lied about us, and we got thrown into jail. But when we get our footage back, we’ll be able to vindicate ourselves again.

Here’s what gets me though: people are getting very offended by the simple fact that we’re taking cameras with us wherever we go. But if it weren’t for the cameras, no one would know the truth of what is happening in Dearborn!

And what is happening in Dearborn? Don’t get me wrong, I met a ton of awesome people at the festival today. But it seems like every time we come to this city, we encounter people who would lie at the drop of a hat to advance their own agendas, regardless of whether they will be proven false! I have been many places throughout this country, but never have I seen such a predilection for deception. What is it about this specific city that makes people act this way?

I, Richard Valencia from Dallas, TX, was a witness to the events that took place at about 9:15pm-9:25pm on June 18, 2010 in Dearborn, MI at the Arab Festival. Here it is as i saw it:

"I saw Nabeel Qureshi in the midst of a crowd of about twenty teenagers and young adult Muslims. David Wood and Paul were video taping Nabeel and the young Muslims dialog. Police officers, about four, were present acting as a shield protecting Nabeel from a crowd closing in tighter. The entire dialog seemed very peaceful and productive. i did not hear the police officers tell Nabeel or David to stop. The conversation with Nabeel began to wind down.

I was able to speak with Nabeel a little to encourage him. At this point the crowd began to break up and the police also walked away. Another young adult Muslim began conversing with Nabeel and the crowd began to come back together. Finally, the police officers returned, about five or six of them, and surrounded David, Nabeel, and Paul. I thought they were going to protect Nabeel and the other brothers, but without warning, the police, rather gently but still forcibly, began taking hold of the camcorders. They arrested all three of the men and escorted them away at the sound of applause by some of the surrounding Muslims."
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Port Orange, FL
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IMHO, we are beginning to see the change that is slowly coming to not only Michigan, but the United States as well.

I have a friend from England that had purchased a home in my Florida Community who was dismayed to later find out about the Muslim/Islamic presence here in the States. He explained to me that most Muslims are a peaceful, loving people. However, similar to Christianity, Judaism and other religions, there are different sects or observations within each belief.

Once there is a larger percentage of Muslims, they will insist on practices consistent with Islam observance and that will include sharia law. This will deal with clothing and behavior regulations of Muslims that may run contrary to what we have become accustomed to here in the United States.
(Our opinions or observations will not matter as anyone that is not of the Islamic Faith are considered to be infidels)

My friend thought that he was getting away from what was taking place in England and Europe for that matter.

With birth rates and immigration, we are going to witness a change here in the United States (very similar to what the American Natives and Spanish settlers had experienced so many years ago...Oh the Irony!)

With the freedom/observation of religion that we enjoy as a Constitutional Right, we will watch as our governmental representatives and services provide assistance to peoples of different beliefs. This was evident with the position that the Dearborn Police Department and officers were placed in at the Arab Fest.

Of course, this is my simple opinion and observation and I truly do hope that I am wrong. (As I imagine will be pointed out)

May God have mercy on our souls.

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Port Orange, FL
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Here is an example of what I was talking about in my earlier post. It has been confirmed, at least by snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages (Urban Legends). We're at the "baby steps" point....

snopes.com: Obama Is Changing the Face of America
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Old 08-15-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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Here is an example of what I was talking about in my earlier post. It has been confirmed, at least by snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages (Urban Legends). We're at the "baby steps" point....

snopes.com: Obama Is Changing the Face of America
Be accurate at least (and read the Snopes entry, since you offered it up) - the Snopes title isn't "Obama is Changing the Face of America" but "Changing Face." Snopes doesn't confirm, but refutes* most of what is in that email forward except for the photos - this is an annual event that's been going on since at least 1985, not a weekly event somehow encouraged by Obama, as the email forward says. Bush senior and Bush junior, along with Clinton, all held annual Ramadan celebrations at the White House and allowed Muslims to practice their religion per our Constitution.

*"Refutes" is the opposite of "confirms".

I'm not being an apologist for radical Muslims, not hardly, but there's enough real stuff to worry about without resorting to urban legends and alarmist, inaccurate email forwards.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Port Orange, FL
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The snopes entry/title is what came through with the "cut and paste". I am aware that snopes refuted the info but confirmed the photos.

The point being is that the original post had an issue with the Dearborn PD "enforcing Sharia". The officers dealt with the group going into Arab Fest" with cameras, expecting (IMO) the reaction they received. Our 1st amendment allows for the observation/practice of religion. The officers are there to maintain peace and did what they had to do to under the circumstances.

While we concern ourselves with other issues; illegal immigration, problems with border security, oil leaks, changing environment, getting our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, the current recession, unemployment, government spending....we'll be wondering why Europe is having such an problem with religion.

We are going to witness a change to America and most of you will live long enough to see it happen.
It's not a matter of being an alarmist, just watching how the new change will come about. Of course that can be changed by a large meteor, sun spot, or melting glaciers flooding the planet. (Not intending to be an alarmist on the future of the World)

The United States of America, it's citizens and armed forces has suffered the attacks of radical, extremist Muslims and we haven't seen the end.

Just an opinion, an expression of a First Amendment Right....Chiroptera, had you ever taken an oath to uphold the United States Constitution? I have and had done so for 34 years.

Thanks for your response and comments.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Great white north
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Default The main point

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Originally Posted by Starrman69 View Post
The snopes entry/title is what came through with the "cut and paste". I am aware that snopes refuted the info but confirmed the photos.

The point being is that the original post had an issue with the Dearborn PD "enforcing Sharia". The officers dealt with the group going into Arab Fest" with cameras, expecting (IMO) the reaction they received. Our 1st amendment allows for the observation/practice of religion. The officers are there to maintain peace and did what they had to do to under the circumstances.

While we concern ourselves with other issues; illegal immigration, problems with border security, oil leaks, changing environment, getting our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, the current recession, unemployment, government spending....we'll be wondering why Europe is having such an problem with religion.

We are going to witness a change to America and most of you will live long enough to see it happen.
It's not a matter of being an alarmist, just watching how the new change will come about. Of course that can be changed by a large meteor, sun spot, or melting glaciers flooding the planet. (Not intending to be an alarmist on the future of the World)

The United States of America, it's citizens and armed forces has suffered the attacks of radical, extremist Muslims and we haven't seen the end.

Just an opinion, an expression of a First Amendment Right....Chiroptera, had you ever taken an oath to uphold the United States Constitution? I have and had done so for 34 years.

Thanks for your response and comments.
The main point here is the Dearborn P.D. has taken an oath to "serve, protect and defend" the laws of the United States of America, and the State of Michigan and the laws of the City of Dearborn and nothing else...not sheria or any other religious rules and decrees. In fact, they have no authority to recognize any other forms of law and especially religious law. The authority bestowed upon the police officer in Dearborn or any other community are finite, identifiable, and limited. The Police Department can not assume or take upon themselves any additional authority to enforce laws not granted to them by the Federal, State or City in which they serve, period. If that were true then on any given friday a police officer could enter a restaurant and check on patrons who were Roman Catholic and make sure they were not having meat. Doesn't make much sense does it. The real point is the arab community did not come here to become Americans first. They brought their homeland with them and live tight knit communities. They are arab first and become American citizens for the advantages of citizenship. So when I saw the film of what took place in Dearborn on 9/11 I knew I had misjudged this whole thing.I also took an oath and served 33 years and America always came first. I too am exercising my First Amendment right.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Port Orange, FL
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The Dearborn Police arrested David, Nabeel and Paul under either Michigan Statute or Dearborn Ordinance.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:54 AM
 
Location: FLINT (yeah you read that right!), MI
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The Dearborn Police arrested David, Nabeel and Paul under either Michigan Statute or Dearborn Ordinance.
I wondered what videotaping had to do with sharia law so I looked up the video on youtube. They were videoing people who told them repeatedly to stop which, I believe, counts as harassment under Dearborn Ordinance. The security guards could have handled it better, but I can see why people were getting irritated.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Port Orange, FL
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I wondered what videotaping had to do with sharia law so I looked up the video on youtube. They were videoing people who told them repeatedly to stop which, I believe, counts as harassment under Dearborn Ordinance. The security guards could have handled it better, but I can see why people were getting irritated.
Exactly! (as to being irritating and that the guards could have handled it better)

Thank you
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Haven't not seen their video and seeing as the source of the original post comes from those who were arrested (which can obviously be bias to further their agenda), here is a link to the Dearborn Press & Guide newspaper in which city officials give their side of the story.

http://www.pressandguide.com/article...c309689542.txt
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