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It says that for a specific program on that base (SVP) to allow someone repeated unaccompanied access to the base to visit someone. That program isn't for a one time visitor to a graduation ceremony which is what we are talking about here.
Okay. I'm not trying to argue, but why wouldn't they do that for any visitor who comes on base? That, to me, makes more sense. Thoughts?
Have you bought a gun recently? There is no such thing as such an "instant background check." There is the "cool your heels for up to three days" background NICS check when you buy a gun--and that's the only federal check of its kind--but that's not what's happening in the visitor's center. "Open public sources" is what you can get off the Internet, not the NICS.
I'm well aware of what open public records are. And yes, I have purchased a gun recently. It takes about 30 minutes. The three days is a product of local regulation and has nothing to do with the speed of the computerized background check.
Okay. I'm not trying to argue, but why wouldn't they do that for any visitor who comes on base? That, to me, makes more sense. Thoughts?
Mainly because civilians should not have to submit to a background check just to watch a loved one graduate a shool. It is unnecessary on most bases and just another way for the government to exercise control when it isn't required.
The service member has to provide the names of his guests for the base access list. Everyone entering the base is subject to search. We don't require military dependents to have background checks, and they have open access to the base, because it isn't necessary. No different for mom and dad or grandma and grandpa who come one time to see their Soldier graduate.
Mainly because civilians should not have to submit to a background check just to watch a loved one graduate a shool. It is unnecessary on most bases and just another way for the government to exercise control when it isn't required.
The service member has to provide the names of his guests for the base access list. Everyone entering the base is subject to search. We don't require military dependents to have background checks, and they have open access to the base, because it isn't necessary. No different for mom and dad or grandma and grandpa who come one time to see their Soldier graduate.
What installation are we talking about, anyway? At some point I got the idea that we were talking about Lackland, but that's not what the OP said.
The OP hasn't said what instalation so we are not speaking about any specific base. A couple have posted examples of bases that require background checks after I stated that most guests, of a one time graduation, are not required to have background checks on most military bases.
I can read. It's the bickering which irritates me. I was more concerned by:
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Stay on topic. Attempts to hi-jack threads by switching topics or going off topic will be deleted and infractions issued. This is not a chat room - when people hi-jack threads by posting messages that are of interest to only few people, the threads often stop being useful discussions of initial topics.
Then you would know I was answering the question asked right before you posted, I wasn't speaking to you. He asked which instalation we were discussing and your post came in while I was typing my answer to him.
The discussion is directly on topic with the OP. It is a discussion forum.
The link you posted stated exactly what I stated about non-escorted access. The link is about sponsored guests, thus they are allowed non-escorted access to the base.
I did this for a few years, including LPO of the security department and security at a submarine ballistic missile base, I am pretty well knowledgeable in base access procedures, all post 9/11.
The bickering in question was between joe from dayton and LBTRS.
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