Lesbian-Trans family looking for a new home in Minneapolis (high school, vs)

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

People who look "different" anywhere will get 2nd looks by a certain percentage of people in that community. That stops when "different" becomes more common place.

Personally, I like to live where I blend in. I'm not interested in being starred at or analysed by others for how I want to live. So logic would prevail that other groups like LGBT might feel more comfortable living in MPLS over Rosemount.

I am speaking about averages. Heck, some people dress in Gothic clothing intentionally sticking out. Therefore living in MPLS is sound advice. Now if your skin is super thick and you want to "plow the fields", I say move to Anoka. Rest assured (to a large degree) you will be whispered about once you are no longer in clear view. Not everyone will do that but a lot of people will. It has little to do with the "level of education" as to how tolerant people are. It has to do with what is more common. Simply put, it isn't common in Rosemount to see LGBT families.

[golfgal]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

People who look "different" anywhere will get 2nd looks by a certain percentage of people in that community. That stops when "different" becomes more common place.

Personally, I like to live where I blend in. I'm not interested in being starred at or analysed by others for how I want to live. So logic would prevail that other groups like LGBT might feel more comfortable living in MPLS over Rosemount.

I am speaking about averages. Heck, some people dress in Gothic clothing intentionally sticking out. Therefore living in MPLS is sound advice. Now if your skin is super thick and you want to "plow the fields", I say move to Anoka. Rest assured (to a large degree) you will be whispered about once you are no longer in clear view. Not everyone will do that but a lot of people will. It has little to do with the "level of education" as to how tolerant people are. It has to do with what is more common. Simply put, it isn't common in Rosemount to see LGBT families.

I disagree with everything you said. There are PLENTY of people in Minneapolis that are closed minded and will cause issues for the LGBT families or the goth kid or whatever. I've run into a lot more narrow minded Minneapolis people then I ever have in the suburbs but you can assume all you want. Like I said earlier, my PERSONAL experience is VASTLY different than your assumptions. Just how do you know you won't blend in in Rosemount, or Woodbury or Maple Grove?? What makes you stand out so much that you are unique to everywhere but Minneapolis?

[uptown_urbanist]

Really? You have personal experience with people being close-minded towards GLBT families in Minneapolis? Granted, I'm not gay (but this is an important issue to my family), but I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that this is the case, and I've spent much more time in Minneapolis than you have. Quite the opposite, really.

I think MN-born-n-raised's point was clear: there are more LGBT families with kids in Minneapolis than in Rosemount. Do you disagree with that? If you're the token gay family in town, you'll probably get more attention (even if it's not mean-spirited) than you would where there are many LGBT families.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by golfgal

I disagree with everything you said. There are PLENTY of people in Minneapolis that are closed minded and will cause issues for the LGBT families or the goth kid or whatever. I've run into a lot more narrow minded Minneapolis people then I ever have in the suburbs but you can assume all you want. Like I said earlier, my PERSONAL experience is VASTLY different than your assumptions. Just how do you know you won't blend in in Rosemount, or Woodbury or Maple Grove?? What makes you stand out so much that you are unique to everywhere but Minneapolis?

We are talking about averages and nothing is cut and dry. On average, MPLS has more LGBT families than Rosemount. That isn't up for debate. Of course there are closed minded people in every town in America (and plenty of them). I'm closed minded on many topics and it is based off of my upbringing as well as my personal experiences. So are you and U.U.; that's just reality.

All of us are talking about opinions. Neither one of us has sampled the towns and questioned as to who is more "open minded". But in my opinion, logic and common sense is telling me that MPLS sees a lot more LGBT families and there will be LESS judgement in comparison. YMMV.

[HiFi]

Originally Posted by uptown_urbanist

Really? You have personal experience with people being close-minded towards GLBT families in Minneapolis? Granted, I'm not gay (but this is an important issue to my family), but I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that this is the case, and I've spent much more time in Minneapolis than you have. Quite the opposite, really.

Um, have you ever met a poor uneducated person before uptown? Last I checked, Minneapolis had a few.

[uptown_urbanist]

Originally Posted by HiFi

Um, have you ever met a poor uneducated person before uptown? Last I checked, Minneapolis had a few.

I'm not saying that Minneapolis is some sort of utopia. But where is all this antagonism towards gay families in Minneapolis that Golfgal claims is a bigger problem in Minneapolis than in Rosemount?

And you can't assume that just because someone is poor and/or uneducated that they will harass people because of their family setup. Not sure where this idea that you can look purely at education or income levels and figure out their views on things.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by HiFi

Um, have you ever met a poor uneducated person before uptown? Last I checked, Minneapolis had a few.

As I mentioned to GG, we are talking about trends not absolutes. I'm going to put words in UU's mouth.. She too is talking about trends.

[HiFi]

I would just say that the types who tend to be intolerant are more concentrated in urban centers than in the suburbs. That's not to say that they are very concentrated anywhere, just more so in one place than the other

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by HiFi

I would just say that the types who tend to be intolerant are more concentrated in urban centers than in the suburbs. That's not to say that they are very concentrated anywhere, just more so in one place than the other

Urban "intolerance" comes in a different form and is alive and well. Many folks in the Cities don't embrace conservative values and are therefore "intolerant". Everybody with a strong opinion falls into this camp. I'm as guilty as the next guy with my strong points of view. That is just reality.

[HiFi]

Well by intolerant I don't just mean strongly disagrees with but being incapable or unwilling to allow opposing views. It is an 'us vs them' mentality. The chronically poor and uneducated and also some immigrant communities from socially backwards cultures are really the only places you consistently see those types of narrow and intolerant world views. And those types tend to be in the city centers.