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It was good the batman it is original penguin was funny and Jim Gordon did good acting and awesome the villain riddler original. 9/10 The sequel is coming.
That was my first thought, but the movie turned out pretty good. Just dark cinematography.
I’ll take a hard pass on this one Patterson is a decent actor but to play Batman/Wayne one has to be better then a decent actor. I’ll watch it when it hits DVD but I’m not paying full price to see it.
M more interested to see Morbius and the new Dr Strange movie.
I’ll take a hard pass on this one Patterson is a decent actor but to play Batman/Wayne one has to be better then a decent actor. I’ll watch it when it hits DVD but I’m not paying full price to see it.
Pattinson is amazingly good in expressing emotions through the mask with just his eyes. The psychological difference in this movie is that it's not Bruce Wayne who puts on a mask to play Batman, it's The Batman who sometimes removes his mask to play Bruce Wayne. The Batman is who he really is.
Pattinson is amazingly good in expressing emotions through the mask with just his eyes. The psychological difference in this movie is that it's not Bruce Wayne who puts on a mask to play Batman, it's The Batman who sometimes removes his mask to play Bruce Wayne. The Batman is who he really is.
Nothing wrong with Pattinson as an actor. I just don't think this script gave him much of anything to work with. This movie fell into the same trap as nearly all the other previous live-action Batman flicks: The villains were far more interesting than the hero. The hero is just kinda ... there. He is an observer. It is the villains who are developing and making all the important choices.
This script gave Batman ZERO stakes until the movie was 3/4 over. Why was he fighting crime? Because he's Batman. Why is he desperate to stop the Riddler? Because he's Batman. Why is the Gotham P.D. allowing a costumed vigilante full reign at crime scenes? Because he's Batman. We are expected to just fill in the blanks "because he's Batman," so there was no emotional investment in the character.
THE BATMAN had a lot I liked. Gotham looked great. Penguin was great. Catwoman was fantastic. The Riddler was actually scary. The music was good, even if its best moments were John Williams rip-offs. There were a few well done action sequences. But Gordon was booooooring, large swaths of the plot were consequence free, and Batman himself was just ... there.
It is possible to make Batman just as interesting as his villains. I've seen it done. Check out MASK OF THE PHANTASM or UNDER THE RED HOOD, both of which told far superior stories in half the time of THE BATMAN.
This script gave Batman ZERO stakes until the movie was 3/4 over. Why was he fighting crime? Because he's Batman. Why is he desperate to stop the Riddler? Because he's Batman. Why is the Gotham P.D. allowing a costumed vigilante full reign at crime scenes? Because he's Batman. We are expected to just fill in the blanks "because he's Batman," so there was no emotional investment in the character.
I think that was the point. Until the Batman got "I am vengeance" thrown back into his face by the people he was fighting, he was only fighting criminals because he was the Batman.
His motivation had been no deeper than that...and that was the point and his problem. He stated the problem explicitly: Why is crime not decreasing even though he was actively fighting it? Right in the very beginning, the Batman saved a man...but the man's cowering reaction was, "Please don't hurt me." The very people the Batman was saving did not see him as a hero. The Batman was just someone else hiding in the shadows to beat the hell out of people...because he could.
That's why at the end it was important for him to go back down to rescue the orphan children (the boy's choir) who had otherwise been forgotten, and to stay in the light to work beside the first responders.
To have a hero utterly devoid of any emotional investment from the audience? If that was the point of the story, it goes a long way to explaining why I found the movie rather underwhelming.
For an audience to care about a protagonist, we have to know what is at stake for the hero and why we should care. THE BATMAN never really gave us that. It focused all of that attention on the antagonists --- which is why they were so much more interesting. Batman was trying to stop the villians just because "he's the good guy." A bland, boring, moping good guy.
Traditionally, a story earns sympathy for the hero by showing the origin story. What made the protagonist into someone we should care about?
But filmmakers are avoiding the prominent superheroes' origin stories like a spoiled burger. "Who wants to see Thomas and Martha Wayne die all over again?" "Uncle Ben is dead --- we get it!" Which is why the recent Batman and Spider-Man flicks totally avoided their origin stories.
Fine. But it behooves the screenwriters to give us a reason to care about these characters. THE BATMAN didn't deliver that to me. The movie had a lot going for it, but it utterly failed to deliver its iconic titular hero. Not Pattinson's fault. It's all in the writing. I am awaiting the inevitable sequel with about as much enthusiasm as next month's round of Happy Meal toys.
The psychological difference in this movie is that it's not Bruce Wayne who puts on a mask to play Batman, it's The Batman who sometimes removes his mask to play Bruce Wayne. The Batman is who he really is.
This is well known and in the TDK series betrays that, same with Ben Affleck he played Batman very well.
This is well known and in the TDK series betrays that, same with Ben Affleck he played Batman very well.
Did you mean "betrays" or "portrays?"
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If that was the point of the story, it goes a long way to explaining why I found the movie rather underwhelming.
