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Old 11-29-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Don't think a mountain lion/puma could hold its own?
No chance. A boar grizzly is three or four times the weight of a tom cougar. Even the smaller black bear is usually too tough to take on, although a few scraps have taken place. Cougars do not fare well in confrontations with bears, and usually are smart enough to avoid them.
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Old 11-30-2014, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Polar Bear
Orca
Siberian Tiger
If I am not mistaken, polar bears are the largest land carnivores in the world, reaching weights of up to 2000 lbs.

I don't think an orca is going to have much of a chance against a grizzly. It's not like a grizzly is going to find itself in deep enough water where an orca would have any kind of advantage.

If we are going to mention tigers, lions become the other obvious choice as they are the largest cats in the food chain. I also wouldn't be so quick to count out a hippopotamus in a fight with a grizzly either. They kill more humans every year than any other species in Africa, and are largely considered the most dangerous on the continent.

On another note, grizzlies are known to avoid conflict with wolverines, despite their obvious size advantage.

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The real answer is: a human. And you know why.
A human armed with a .44-70 lever action rifle? Perhaps.

A human armed only with kung fu and an attitude? Not so much.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Don't think a mountain lion/puma could hold its own?
I think a grizzly bear would be too much for a cougar to take on 1-on-1. With that being said, cougars do get into physical conflicts with black bears on occasion.


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Old 11-30-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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If I am not mistaken, polar bears are the largest land carnivores in the world, reaching weights of up to 2000 lbs.

I don't think an orca is going to have much of a chance against a grizzly. It's not like a grizzly is going to find itself in deep enough water where an orca would have any kind of advantage.

If we are going to mention tigers, lions become the other obvious choice as they are the largest cats in the food chain. I also wouldn't be so quick to count out a hippopotamus in a fight with a grizzly either. They kill more humans every year than any other species in Africa, and are largely considered the most dangerous on the continent.

On another note, grizzlies are known to avoid conflict with wolverines, despite their obvious size advantage.



A human armed with a .44-70 lever action rifle? Perhaps.

A human armed only with kung fu and an attitude? Not so much.
What about a crocodile?
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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What about a crocodile?
In deep water, croc. In shallows or on land, bear.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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I also wouldn't be so quick to count out a hippopotamus in a fight with a grizzly either. They kill more humans every year than any other species in Africa, and are largely considered the most dangerous on the continent.
Hippos are not predators. If we consider them then we would have to allow elephants, rhinos, and Cape buffalos in, any of whom can kill a single male lion, and therfore would give a grizzly all it wanted. In N/A a mature bull bison can weigh over a ton, and is vitually predator proof, but a bison is not a predator either.

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On another note, grizzlies are known to avoid conflict with wolverines, despite their obvious size advantage.
Not so, a grizzly can swat a gulo like a fly. Hundred year old trapper's tales about wolverines beating up an entire wolf pack, or taking away a kill from a cougar or a bear, are just that, tall tales. A male wolverine, Gulo Gulo, averages 30-40 pounds. While they are tough, fierce animals, with great endurance, they are not bionic made of steel, and size does count in the animal world. A prime male wolf is triple the size, a cougar quadruple, and a grizzly 15-20 times the weight of that wolverine.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Just curiosity. I've seen many types of animals fights on the internet but I've never seen any animal fighting a grizzly bear one-on-one. I figured I would ask posters on the nature forum this type of question instead of putting it on the pets forum.



Humans don't count.
Really, the pets forum?

Animals don't fight. They kill to eat, mate, protect territory and things like that but they don't go out looking for fights.

Apex predators usually don't interact with each other because they are rarely locate in close proximity to each other. Orcas don't meet Grizzly bears because Grizzly Bears are ocean or salt water swimmers for the most part.

Maybe some WWMA or whatever that stuff is called?
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Old 12-01-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Really, the pets forum?

Animals don't fight. They kill to eat, mate, protect territory and things like that but they don't go out looking for fights.

Apex predators usually don't interact with each other because they are rarely locate in close proximity to each other. Orcas don't meet Grizzly bears because Grizzly Bears are ocean or salt water swimmers for the most part.

Maybe some WWMA or whatever that stuff is called?
That hasn't stop humans from setting up animal fights. Have you ever heard of the Ancient Romans and the coliseum? Whether you like it or not, animal fights do happen. Of course it's usually through human intervention.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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That hasn't stop humans from setting up animal fights. Have you ever heard of the Ancient Romans and the coliseum? Whether you like it or not, animal fights do happen. Of course it's usually through human intervention.
You're missing quite a few points.

Yes, some people arrange animal fights. It is also true that some people belong in prison for doing that and also true that some should be thrown into the pit with the animals.
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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Even though a liger isn't an apex predator but more of a genetic experiment, I think it a liger could hold it own against a grizzly bear in a fight.


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