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Old 09-15-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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What we humans call "enclosures" for animals, we call "solitary confinement" for fellow humans.


At least we have San Diego's Safari Park. It's not perfect, but it's significantly better than a zoo....

Solitary confinement? Many animals are grouped together, in zoos. If they lived in communities in the wild, they're living in communities at the zoo.
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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What we humans call "enclosures" for animals, we call "solitary confinement" for fellow humans.


At least we have San Diego's Safari Park. It's not perfect, but it's significantly better than a zoo....
The San Diego Safari Park/San Diego Zoo are simply two different "store fronts" for the same entity with the same overarching mission/purpose. Some animals are better suited to a more open enclosure format than others.

There are species so vulnerable they can't be exposed to risk from inter-animal competition, disease, stress, physical accident, even predation from native S California predators (hawks, coyotes, owls, feral cats and dogs, some deranged human) they can't be housed safely in those wide open paddocks. California condor is just one example. San Clemente loggerhead shrike is another, but unfortunately for it, it gets a lot less publicity. Every single bird is biologically precious, irreplaceable. The San Diego Zoo, along with support by the US Navy, has been the critical player in re-establishing a tiny wild population of these CA endemic birds.

Also consider that the species you see in those communal enclosures are prey animals, not predators. Realistically, you can't house predators with prey long term no matter how well they're fed, especially if they are permitted to breed...unless you want to provide your visitors with a truly "immersive" real world experience that includes some unpleasant surprises.

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Old 09-20-2021, 03:38 AM
 
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What we humans call "enclosures" for animals, we call "solitary confinement" for fellow humans.


At least we have San Diego's Safari Park. It's not perfect, but it's significantly better than a zoo....

Oh another left winger who thinks animals are better than humans. Pathetic.
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:02 AM
 
Location: North America
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Oh another left winger who thinks animals are better than humans. Pathetic.
I know it upsets your ilk, but the reality is that humans - Homo sapiens - are animals, Donny. By definition.
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Old 09-21-2021, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I love the St. Louis Zoo and visit it at least once per year... I live in rural Missouri a couple of hours away from St. Louis. I took my significant other's kids there when they were young and I take their children now. This (and Cardinal baseball) is a family tradition.

Zoos are more than animal research, rehabilitation, education, and exhibition. The zoo is part of the community glue.
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