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Old 09-17-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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I am personally against posting land, but then some people won't respect the land, and that's exactly how land gets posted.
I'm against people entering my property uninvited.
I bought, I own it, end of story.
Will those hunters be paying my property taxes? Would they like me prowling around on their lawn in the wee hours of the morning?
Personally if I had my way I would trank every trespassing idiot, strip them naked and leave them at the nearest parking lot. Maybe even Sharpie " Now you understand property rights" on their back and forehead, so they don't forget for a long time.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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GF, I just grew up as a wee lad in a different time, when no one cared if passers by, passed by. Used to be people had a little respect for other people, and other peoples stuff.

So I have no beef about your feelings in this dog eat dog world 'we' created.

I am not too sure you really own property, so far as I can tell the Gov owns it all, or you would be paying taxes on it. You only have some controll of the property you basicly lease from the Got if you ask me. It seems to me every square inch of the land must produce taxes.
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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GF, I just grew up as a wee lad in a different time, when no one cared if passers by, passed by. Used to be people had a little respect for other people, and other peoples stuff.

So I have no beef about your feelings in this dog eat dog world 'we' created.

I am not too sure you really own property, so far as I can tell the Gov owns it all, or you would be paying taxes on it. You only have some controll of the property you basicly lease from the Got if you ask me. It seems to me every square inch of the land must produce taxes.
I'm old enough as well. But I'm also reclusive and pretty wary of legal entanglements.
Yes government actually owns everything.
But with property I don't like uninvited visitors. I don't like people assuming they have the right to invade my personal domain. Especially without asking.
Would you want me just walking into your living room with a weapon in my hand unannounced? I doubt it.
You are libel for accidents which happen on your land even if those involved are trespassing.

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If a hunter gets hurt on my land, am I liable?
No. Under RSA 212:34, a landowner owes "no duty of care to keep such premises safe for entry or use by others for hunting, fishing, trapping" or other recreational uses.
But there are some exceptions. A landowner has a duty to warn about any dangerous conditions or use that may exist.
Let's say you have a large old well on your land, and you don't take precautions to warn people about it. A hunter comes by and falls in the well, suffering serious injuries. You could be liable - and could pay civil damages - for not providing warnings or other safeguards about the hazard.


So yep I'm sure gonna want to save my ass from being sued.
One would think that Libertarian NH would actually advocate property rights. They are one of the few rights we can actively control and that will be legally respected.
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:47 PM
 
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Samantha10, try Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowedfor some overviews. Some of citydata's info is dated data. Enter the town name you want and click on the Crime Rates tab. Might be helpful. You can zoom in by clicking the neighborhoods on the maps.

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Old 09-19-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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I'm old enough as well. But I'm also reclusive and pretty wary of legal entanglements.
Yes government actually owns everything.
But with property I don't like uninvited visitors. I don't like people assuming they have the right to invade my personal domain. Especially without asking.
Would you want me just walking into your living room with a weapon in my hand unannounced? I doubt it.
You are libel for accidents which happen on your land even if those involved are trespassing.

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So yep I'm sure gonna want to save my ass from being sued.
One would think that Libertarian NH would actually advocate property rights. They are one of the few rights we can actively control and that will be legally respected.

If you were in my living room unannouced I would have a problem, but not for being armed to the teeth I expect everyone I know is armed.

If a passer by or a hunter gets hurt here, and of their own doing and were to sue, their bones would be found here stinking in the spring time.

If I were passing thru your land and was hurt, chances are you would not ever know I was there at all.

I have 0 right to pass by on your land, but I would in a general way hope no one would care, much less know I ever did. I hike all over the place in Tamworth and have no idea of who owns what land I pass by on. So far as I can tell no has bothered about any of my moccasin tracks yet.

I do understand the point though, and find no fault of it.

Once I lived dead center in the Ossipee ring d i k e (nannied word here), and had several wackos at the door wanting the most ridiculose things, like keys to the logging company gates, so the wacko could drive his Ford Escort to Moultonboro.

I had no keys, I never ever worked for the logging co, didn't know anyone who did, and there plain up and straight is no logging road to Moultonboro from there in the first place, and even a D-8 dozer would take a month to get there. The wacko was wanting in to use my phone to call the cops.

I stopped him at the door with one of my primitive 1 digital communication devices Some blokes are just un-reasonable.

I am not much into paper law. My first ccw was issued by a cop who thence blew out his own brains with his service pistol anyway. That told me what I needed to know about paper law.

I was hurt on a BLM road and could have sued, for all the good it would have done. I am sure by the year 3333 the trial would have come to a hearing.

2 years ago a man broke one of my ribs by accident, I never thought to sue. But that's how I live my life, and understand some people are just looking for a free ride. So I find no fault with your lodgic, but don't want to live that way .

I know the world is all about the short sighted fast Buck, but I don't live that way either.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Can I ask a stupid question...what kind of dog would one use to hunt a bear? Are they used to trace the scent? It seems to me that a dog would almost scare a bear away instead
Do a google search for catahoula cur. We have mountain cur. She is a similar breed who was bred to hunt and then discarded due to partial deafness. We got her from a rescue and the only thing she hunts nowadays is tennis balls and couch time.

However, left to her own devices she will still tree anything that moves. She will chase the game to a tree and then stand at the base of the tree with front paws on the tree and rear paws on ground. She will bark up the tree until released by the master.

I have a picture somewhere and will post if i can find it. But you can also find several pictures through a google search.
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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If you were in my living room unannouced I would have a problem, but not for being armed to the teeth I expect everyone I know is armed.
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Would you want me just walking into your living room with a weapon in my hand unannounced?
Whole different meaning.
Normally I would agree with you about land should be free and open. But I'm more of a Libertarian lately than a Liberal. What I buy I own. If I wanted to join a commune and share community property I would.
If I want to wander naked across my land I don't expect to see some ******* peeking at me from the shrubs. The whole point being I want to wander naked and peaceful without a worry someone is there. No offense.
And that's where the problem lies. If I invite said ******* to visit my property, then fine. If I charge said ******* to visit my property, that's even better because then said ******* actually shoulders part of the burden I carry.
But I expect everyone else to respect my rights. I won't **** in your living room if you don't **** in my pool.
Other than litigation keeping my property private is about exercising my rights. We have fewer and fewer every year. And we need to use them while we can.
I can't stop Imminent Domain but I can stop strangers.
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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My exact words were
Whole different meaning.
Normally I would agree with you about land should be free and open. But I'm more of a Libertarian lately than a Liberal. What I buy I own. If I wanted to join a commune and share community property I would.
If I want to wander naked across my land I don't expect to see some ******* peeking at me from the shrubs. The whole point being I want to wander naked and peaceful without a worry someone is there. No offense.
And that's where the problem lies. If I invite said ******* to visit my property, then fine. If I charge said ******* to visit my property, that's even better because then said ******* actually shoulders part of the burden I carry.
But I expect everyone else to respect my rights. I won't **** in your living room if you don't **** in my pool.
Other than litigation keeping my property private is about exercising my rights. We have fewer and fewer every year. And we need to use them while we can.
I can't stop Imminent Domain but I can stop strangers.

Geeze man, I hope yer not callin me a Libral, now thar's some reel fightin' words!

I would have a problerm with a stranger in the living room, but wouldn't care a bit if that stranger was armed. I am a little funny about firearms.

Just the fact a stranger was armed might mean a whole lot of camp fire lies were about to be started.

Being naked happens to be a really good way to disarm most anyone I have done it twice, and no one will stand their ground to a naked man with a gun, trust me. (Note I might be certifiable )

You in Tamworth? Lots of land here isn't posted. Much of the land is tied up in forest conservation, so it's easy to step off a conservation land open to all, and be on a un-posted private property. There were signs here which I took down.

Don't care who comes and hunts or passes by. If they create litigation they just won't last real long.

There are no known hazards, and so that should put most owners with none in the clear.

NH isn't very PC in the rural areas.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:38 AM
 
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Samantha10, try Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed for some overviews. Some of citydata's info is dated data. Enter the town name you want and click on the Crime Rates tab. Might be helpful. You can zoom in by clicking the neighborhoods on the maps.

Thank you!

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Old 09-20-2011, 05:57 AM
 
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Do a google search for catahoula cur. We have mountain cur. She is a similar breed who was bred to hunt and then discarded due to partial deafness. We got her from a rescue and the only thing she hunts nowadays is tennis balls and couch time.

However, left to her own devices she will still tree anything that moves. She will chase the game to a tree and then stand at the base of the tree with front paws on the tree and rear paws on ground. She will bark up the tree until released by the master.

I have a picture somewhere and will post if i can find it. But you can also find several pictures through a google search.
They are too cute to hunt a bear...

I imagine that breeds like that may be a bit popular at rescues.
Sort of like a greyhound. Once they are not needed anymore they are given away.
Rescues are so great to have...they really appreciate you and the life that you have given them. We have 2 rescues now and I could never imagine having anything other than one (or two) at this point
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