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Old 06-19-2015, 07:50 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Good point but replace "cell phone" with seatbelt and/or helmet. Is that the direction you want NH to go? I for one enjoy living in NH because we are more free to make our own decisions than most other states. Once that freedom to choose goes away we will be no different.
Only idiots don't use their seatbelts, and I feel the same about bicyclists and motorcyclists who don't wear helmets. But having the laws are a great way to develop smart safety habits. I see all too many news articles of accidents where the victims were thrown from their vehicle. As to helmets, I don't understand why any cyclist would gamble the well-being of their brains just because they like the sensation of wind blowing through their hair. Skin and bones can be mended, brain cells can't be replaced.

And I am a huge fan and follower of motorsports and all those competitions require the use of safety equipment such as seatbelts and helmets. If the professional motorsports competitors see the value and necessity in having seatbelts and safety gear, why wouldn't the same logic apply to our crowded public roads?

Not wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle and not wearing seatbelts in a car is not a valid nor impressive show of freedom in my book. And that "beautiful mind" mathematician John Nash and his wife would most likely be alive today if they had only been wearing seatbelts while riding in their taxi on the NH Turnpike. Their driver survived because unlike his passengers, he wasn't ejected from his vehicle.

It seems to me that laws are enacted when the majority of the population starts thoughtlessly or selfishly heading down the wrong path instead of practicing commonsense and showing consideration for others.
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Old 06-19-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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There it is. Read it and know it. It doesn't happen at once, it happens chip by chip under the name of safety and security.

And they always start with stuff like this, that some people can get behind, as a way of setting the precedent they will use to take away additional freedoms in the future.
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Old 06-19-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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It seems to me that laws are enacted when the majority of the population starts thoughtlessly or selfishly heading down the wrong path instead of practicing commonsense and showing consideration for others.
Laws are made to control the population. I don't need people like you telling me what my freedoms should and shouldn't be.
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Only idiots don't use their seatbelts, and I feel the same about bicyclists and motorcyclists who don't wear helmets.
I support their right to not wear seatbelts or helmets. It affects their own safety. I don't support someone's "right" to text and drive and put everyone else's life in danger.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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I support their right to not wear seatbelts or helmets. It affects their own safety. I don't support someone's "right" to text and drive and put everyone else's life in danger.
I think there is some misinformation about this law. Texting while driving is already illegal. This new law just makes it illegal to talk on your phone unless you buy a new hands free device.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I think there is some misinformation about this law. Texting while driving is already illegal. This new law just makes it illegal to talk on your phone unless you buy a new hands free device.

I think you just hit the nail on the proverbial head the Uncle Bully
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Only idiots don't use their seatbelts, and I feel the same about bicyclists and motorcyclists who don't wear helmets. But having the laws are a great way to develop smart safety habits. I see all too many news articles of accidents where the victims were thrown from their vehicle. As to helmets, I don't understand why any cyclist would gamble the well-being of their brains just because they like the sensation of wind blowing through their hair. Skin and bones can be mended, brain cells can't be replaced.

And I am a huge fan and follower of motorsports and all those competitions require the use of safety equipment such as seatbelts and helmets. If the professional motorsports competitors see the value and necessity in having seatbelts and safety gear, why wouldn't the same logic apply to our crowded public roads?

Not wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle and not wearing seatbelts in a car is not a valid nor impressive show of freedom in my book. And that "beautiful mind" mathematician John Nash and his wife would most likely be alive today if they had only been wearing seatbelts while riding in their taxi on the NH Turnpike. Their driver survived because unlike his passengers, he wasn't ejected from his vehicle.

It seems to me that laws are enacted when the majority of the population starts thoughtlessly or selfishly heading down the wrong path instead of practicing commonsense and showing consideration for others.

Not too judgmental there are ya.. and yet this long haired toothless idiot still survives.. while thousands upon thousands who trusted in those safety devices perished or became veggies because of them, but far be it for me to tell the family of someone who burned to death or drowned because they could not get their seatbelt off that the victim was an idiot for wearing one, nor would I think of telling the poor woman who just found out that her hubbys helmet did ireversible damage to his spinal cord that he was an idiot for wearing one..but hey please feel free to continue to spew your hate.. looks good on ya
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Laws are made to control the population. I don't need people like you telling me what my freedoms should and shouldn't be.
No..laws are made to dumb down the population or advance an agenda that appeals to the sheeple , sheeple appeased by crumbs are then more readily controlled
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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oh.. I also ride one handed and take pictures...

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Old 06-19-2015, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I really think this says it all about the new cell ban and all other such nuance laws

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