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Maybe not in name, but it basically is. Fwiw, very very few people I know would say that Tom's River is SJ. Most of the people that claim that are from far north (Bergen County types).
If you consider places like Cherry Hill, Mt Laurel and Burlington South Jersey so is TR... Toms River is straight East from Center City Philadelphia. No way could you consider it North Jersey. Futhermore if you get the large print Road Atlas NJ is divided into northern and southern NJ, TR is fully on the southern page While Toms River is not fully Philadelphia influenced its is not in the clutches on NYC either. I grew up in Ocean County and we got both NYC and Philadelphia media... I would say that the best TV coverage of Ocean County is from Chanel 6 in Philadelphia
If you consider places like Cherry Hill, Mt Laurel and Burlington South Jersey so is TR... Toms River is straight East from Center City Philadelphia. No way could you consider it North Jersey. Futhermore if you get the large print Road Atlas NJ is divided into northern and southern NJ, TR is fully on the southern page While Toms River is not fully Philadelphia influenced its is not in the clutches on NYC either. I grew up in Ocean County and we got both NYC and Philadelphia media... I would say that the best TV coverage of Ocean County is from Chanel 6 in Philadelphia
I'm not talking about true geography, I'm talking about human geography. Hell by the measure of true geography, Cape May is on the same latitude as DC. Most people I know from around TR were originally from NNJ/NY and identify with those areas more than with SJ. I have no doubt that there are many people born and raised in TR that identify with SJ, but at the same time very few people from the "core" SJ (tri-county area) consider TR to be part of SJ. But to address your next point, I don't think TR is North Jersey either, and I don't remember saying that. I personally would say it's Central. As for media, I have seen both Philly and NYC news and agree that Philly news does a much better job of covering areas in NYC's supposed sphere (Ocean, Middlesex, Mercer, Hunterdon) than NYC news does.
I'm not talking about true geography, I'm talking about human geography. Hell by the measure of true geography, Cape May is on the same latitude as DC. Most people I know from around TR were originally from NNJ/NY and identify with those areas more than with SJ. I have no doubt that there are many people born and raised in TR that identify with SJ, but at the same time very few people from the "core" SJ (tri-county area) consider TR to be part of SJ. But to address your next point, I don't think TR is North Jersey either, and I don't remember saying that. I personally would say it's Central. As for media, I have seen both Philly and NYC news and agree that Philly news does a much better job of covering areas in NYC's supposed sphere (Ocean, Middlesex, Mercer, Hunterdon) than NYC news does.
Agreed on most of the people living in TR now are from from "up north". ( or Staten Island-- worse) The longer people live in Ocean County the less they identify w North Jersey. The infastructure and Pine Barrens also limit accessablity to Philadelphia( ie Route 70/72 vs GSP.) I could agree with Central Jersey (albeit grudgingly LOL).. but realistically East Brunswick, Toms River and Cherry Hill are more alike than compared to Jersey City or Camden
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Agreed on most of the people living in TR now are from from "up north". ( or Staten Island-- worse) The longer people live in Ocean County the less they identify w North Jersey. The infastructure and Pine Barrens also limit accessablity to Philadelphia( ie Route 70/72 vs GSP.) I could agree with Central Jersey (albeit grudgingly LOL).. but realistically East Brunswick, Toms River and Cherry Hill are more alike than compared to Jersey City or Camden
I had neighbors in Cherry Hill who moved there from Toms River based on, pretty much, your logic. They hated everything about Cherry Hill as well as all things being connected to Philly. They sold out & moved back in less than 2 years.
I had neighbors in Cherry Hill who moved there from Toms River based on, pretty much, your logic. They hated everything about Cherry Hill as well as all things being connected to Philly. They sold out & moved back in less than 2 years.
Or as the North Jersey transplants say "Toms Riva" Its always funny to me that people move to a new place to get away from the old place and then do nothing but b***ch and moan about hows its not like where they came from.
In High School I worked for a little while at the Bricktown Kmart.. I remember some woman who would drive back to Essex County for doctors appointment. ( not specialists mind you) because she didnt trust the doctors "down here." I thought she was stupid.
Sometimes I wish that Pinelands preservation came 20 year earlier... Ocean County would be much less sprawl but close enough to big city ammenites. Its a lot easier to get into Philly than NYC... and it costs less.
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