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Old 05-08-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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No one says we're #1. Saying we're among the best and #1 aren't the same thing. It's hard to evaluate which state has the best public schools, anyway. All you can say is who is better than who else, and more often than not it comes down to being town by town. And public schools is a different topic than what we are discussing right here. Performance of public schools/our own universities and having the highest educated residents are not the same thing. Either way, we're up there in both so I don't know what you're going on about.

You just have a chip on your shoulder regarding NJ, it comes out in various threads. What happened to you here? What bad experience did you have?
...Not really. I mean top 5, wonderful, great, amazing. But how much do residents pay in property taxes to get to that top 5 rating? Not sure if it's worth it there.

It's just harder and more of a PITA to live in NJ over a lot of other places. That's why I like coming back to visit, but after a few days I'm ready to jet out again.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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...Not really. I mean top 5, wonderful, great, amazing. But how much do residents pay in property taxes to get to that top 5 rating? Not sure if it's worth it there.

It's just harder and more of a PITA to live in NJ over a lot of other places. That's why I like coming back to visit, but after a few days I'm ready to jet out again.
It is wonderful, great, and amazing. It must draw people to this state - I mean SOMETHING does considering our high population for our small size and the fact that we have the highest density - THAT we're #1 in but I'm sure you'll find some way to twist that or make it negative, too. Let me see, here's an answer to what I know will be the critique - yes, we have areas of extremely high density and are overall the densest but we also have extremely rural areas where you will quite frankly sometimes feel as if you're in the middle of Alabama. We have farms, country roads, and areas of very low density, as well. We are a mix of dense and urban and quiet and rural, mountainous, forest-y, or beach-y, and pretty much whatever else minus desert (and I'm not complaining we don't have a desert, trust me).

How much do we pay in property taxes to get in the top 5 rating of highest educated residents (you know, the current topic at hand)? Um, nothing…
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Freshflakes must be one miserable person .

I am actually a little heartbroken on leaving NJ for graduate school, but its the choice which will benefit me the most. I do want to come back here however. If I find a reasonable and interesting job in NJ after grad school, there is nothing preventing me from coming back here besides a more interesting job offer.

My understanding and experiences in America Started upon jersey soil. This experience will be forever ingrained in my heart.

On a side note: Orange, Rockland, and Sullivan counties in NY should belong to NJ.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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"It must draw people to this state - I mean SOMETHING does considering our high population for our small size and the fact that we have the highest density - THAT we're #1"

Can New Jersey Keep Its Rich Taxpayers From Fleeing? - Forbes

^ Remember this article?
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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Interesting idea — but South Jersey is much more PA-centric than it is DE aware. My question would be why Delaware should not be a part of Maryland, but I'll leave that for DE/MD residents to hash out in their respective forums.
Delaware has one of the smallest populations in the US and Delaware is the 2nd smallest state in the US so I think it makes more sense for Southern New Jersey to become part of Delaware rather than Pennsylvania. That will increase population from only 897,934 people to about 3,319,975 people. Maybe Delaware could also take over Philadelphia County and Delaware County from PA as well. That will increase population even more to 5,404,960 people. I think Delaware should not be part of Maryland and instead have Delaware take over Southern NJ.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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"It must draw people to this state - I mean SOMETHING does considering our high population for our small size and the fact that we have the highest density - THAT we're #1"

Can New Jersey Keep Its Rich Taxpayers From Fleeing? - Forbes

^ Remember this article?
Sure. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people still live here for our size and we're the densest - meaning a lot of people live here.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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Delaware has one of the smallest populations in the US and Delaware is the 2nd smallest state in the US so I think it makes more sense for Southern New Jersey to become part of Delaware rather than Pennsylvania. That will increase population from only 897,934 people to about 3,319,975 people. Maybe Delaware could also take over Philadelphia County and Delaware County from PA as well. That will increase population even more to 5,404,960 people. I think Delaware should not be part of Maryland and instead have Delaware take over Southern NJ.
Why do you think it should be Delaware takes us and not the opposite? New Jersey is a much more prominent and known state than Delaware. We're popular in pop culture (though usually negatively - still, we're relevant) and our Jersey Shore is internationally known, at least by name (and was before the show ) - Atlantic City and Cape May are two examples. Delaware taking NJ would diminish NJ's characteristics and do what for Delaware?… It'd still be Delaware. NJ taking Delaware would add to our coastline, and that's about it. I really have nothing against Delaware at all, it's a nice little state, but you can't deny we're more well-known than them (I hate to say 'relevant' but as far as culture goes we kind of are…). IF it were possible to annex states, Delaware should become part of NJ, not the opposite. New Jersey shouldn't be lost. We have a well enough known culture and identity to just disappear like it's nothing. Just my opinion on a debate that doesn't even matter because it's barely possible and will never happen.
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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We were actually forced to give up a part of NY state in the late 18th century. Let's reclaim that back first.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Randolph, NJ
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Again, NJ is not #1 in ANY of these surveys. Most educated state? I think not.

Who said #1? Being top 5 or so in multiple measures is extremely strong and supports the claim that was made.

BTW, I didn' notice CA at the top either.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Who said #1? Being top 5 or so in multiple measures is extremely strong and supports the claim that was made.

BTW, I didn' notice CA at the top either.
CA has a lot more people and is a bigger state. Not comparable.
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